If Bryce doesn’t produce, we moving on?

[Tr3ach]

I honestly think this coming season is his make or break year. I have noticed some press conferences where Dan and Dave have made some interesting comments when asked about bryces future and upcoming contract and they've basically said they're not thinking about that or factoring it in at all.  Hopefully he continues to improve, that is our best bet.   The conspiracy theorist in me thinks they have already start preparing if he doesn't make another jump this year. The thing that have made me wonder, while doing some detective work.  The Redshirt freshman from South Carolina, Lanorris Sellers.  He has crazy potential and improved greatly throughout the season last year.  I saw we had 11 south carolina players in for our top 30s including 5 or 6 that were expected to go undrafted.  It's a bit of a conspiracy theory but could they already be doing a lot of research on Sellers by talking to his teammates.  Again, I'm not a Bryce hater and I think the best option is he continues to make a jump this season.  It's just something that has stood out to me.

Edited 6 hours ago by Tr3ach
Not a Bryce hater.

[rebelrouser]

On 4/27/2025 at 1:04 PM, TheBigKat said:

He’s going into this season with no true competition for the #1

 

we have invested a fortune in a competent O-line

bonafide #1 RB

solid TE

Arguable top 10 slot WR in Theilen

back to back 1st round picks in WR

a OC minded HC

 

this IS his make it or break it year

Don't forget we spent a lot of draft capital in taking Mingo, Legette, and McMillian to give him wr weapons after we spent a fortune to make him the #1. I don't think he will ever live up to being a no. 1 pick but could turn into a serviceable starter.  

[Jon Snow]

Oh ye of little faith. Bryce Young will be the starter for the Carolina Panthers for years to come. You better prepare thy anus.

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I honestly think this coming season is his make or break year. I have noticed some press conferences where Dan and Dave have made some interesting comments when asked about bryces future and upcoming contract and they've basically said they're not thinking about that or factoring it in at all.  Hopefully he continues to improve, that is our best bet.   The conspiracy theorist in me thinks they have already start preparing if he doesn't make another jump this year. The thing that have made me wonder, while doing some detective work.  The Redshirt freshman from South Carolina, Lanorris Sellers.  He has crazy potential and improved greatly throughout the season last year.  I saw we had 11 south carolina players in for our top 30s including 5 or 6 that were expected to go undrafted.  It's a bit of a conspiracy theory but could they already be doing a lot of research on Sellers by talking to his teammates.  Again, I'm not a Bryce hater and I think the best option is he continues to make a jump this season.  It's just something that has stood out to me.

maybe one of the worst franchises in the NFL......should reconsider the pipeline fixation from the U of SC.  We have more draft picks from there than any other university on planet Earth. 

and zero all time from the best football program in the Carolina's. 

might be time to mix it up differently. 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I honestly think this coming season is his make or break year. I have noticed some press conferences where Dan and Dave have made some interesting comments when asked about bryces future and upcoming contract and they've basically said they're not thinking about that or factoring it in at all.  Hopefully he continues to improve, that is our best bet. 

This is the only reasonable approach. He played much better down the stretch last season. Well enough for us to commit to him this season. Let's let this season play out and see where it goes. There's no pressing decision that has to be made right now so it's a non-issue.

[Tr3ach]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

maybe one of the worst franchises in the NFL......should reconsider the pipeline fixation from the U of SC.  We have more draft picks from there than any other university on planet Earth. 

and zero all time from the best football program in the Carolina's. 

might be time to mix it up differently. 

 

I don't disagree.  I'm just saying we used 11 of our top 30 visits on south carolina players and we brought in one, as a udfa.  I just wonder if some of that was to research Sellers.  Also I don't like South Carolina as a Pipeline either,  but Sellers does have a lot of potential and could definitely climb up the qb rankings this season.  He was a redshirt freshman last year and showed a lot of improvement.  They clearly didn't spend 11 of the top 30 interviews on south carolina players because they were wanting to bring them in this year or they would have drafted some or brought in more than 1 udfa.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Tr3ach said:

I don't disagree.  I'm just saying we used 11 of our top 30 visits on south carolina players 

Good lord that's insane. LOL

It's insane to use over a third of your top 30 visits on prospects at any one school much less a middle of the pack P5 school. It's not like South Carolina is Ohio State or Alabama, etc. They're basically half a step up from UNC. Hell, we beat them last time we played.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Tr3ach said:

I don't disagree.  I'm just saying we used 11 of our top 30 visits on south carolina players and we brought in one, as a udfa.  I just wonder if some of that was to research Sellers.  Also I don't like South Carolina as a Pipeline either,  but Sellers does have a lot of potential and could definitely climb up the qb rankings this season.  He was a redshirt freshman last year and showed a lot of improvement.  They clearly didn't spend 11 of the top 30 interviews on south carolina players because they were wanting to bring them in this year or they would have drafted some or brought in more than 1 udfa.

but again, we have drafted more players from that college than anyone else on planet Earth....and that stat predates Sellers stepping on a football field.  It's just what the Panthers do for whatever reason. 

Sellers averages like 15 rush attempts per game.  And he isn't Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson.  I think Sellers around these parts has been vastly overrated because of a game Clemson couldn't tackle in (and Clemson proved in every game this season they might not be able to tackle David Tepper if he was in the open field.  Sellers couldn't do anything as a passer that game.  Was meh in the bowl game.  But sure, he had some miracle scrambles vs a horrible tackling Clemson team.  Folks way too high on him IMO). 

[Tr3ach]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Good lord that's insane. LOL

It's insane to use over a third of your top 30 visits on prospects at any one school much less a middle of the pack P5 school. It's not like South Carolina is Ohio State or Alabama, etc. They're basically half a step up from UNC. Hell, we beat them last time we played.

Yea and we only brought 1 in, the udfs linebacker.  That's what makes me think there was more to the visits.  Even if my theory is true I think they're still hoping Bryce continues to improve as choice #1.   But by how fast Dave benched Bryce and how long it took to bench Dalton to put him back in, I don't think Dave is 100% confident in the ceiling of Bryce.  Might as well do a little qb research just in case even if you're 90% sure Bryce is the answer.

[Tr3ach]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

but again, we have drafted more players from that college than anyone else on planet Earth....and that stat predates Sellers stepping on a football field.  It's just what the Panthers do for whatever reason. 

Sellers averages like 15 rush attempts per game.  And he isn't Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson.  I think Sellers around these parts has been vastly overrated because of a game Clemson couldn't tackle in (and Clemson proved in every game this season they might not be able to tackle David Tepper if he was in the open field.  Sellers couldn't do anything as a passer that game.  Was meh in the bowl game.  But sure, he had some miracle scrambles vs a horrible tackling Clemson team.  Folks way too high on him IMO). 

Yea, I'm not sure how I feel about him yet.  A lot of qb prospects make huge rises or falls the year before they come out, and he doesn't even have to come out for a long time.  So I'm not judging him as a prospect before the upcoming season is over.  It's just something I've been wondering about since the absurd amount of top 30 visits.  Not really saying my opinion on him as a prospect or drafting him either way.  Just reading some tea leaves so to speak. 

[panthers55]

You don't move on unless you can trade him for good value. But you do bring in competition for the position and let the best man win. He is still on a rookie contract but you wouldn't pick up his 5th option unless he earned it this year and next.

[CRA]

29 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Yea, I'm not sure how I feel about him yet.  A lot of qb prospects make huge rises or falls the year before they come out, and he doesn't even have to come out for a long time.  So I'm not judging him as a prospect before the upcoming season is over.  It's just something I've been wondering about since the absurd amount of top 30 visits.  Not really saying my opinion on him as a prospect or drafting him either way.  Just reading some tea leaves so to speak. 

I wonder if the Carolina Panther Gamecock "fixation" is the downside of the "local visit" perk.  It's the only SEC school that checks the box and they get local visits out of it at draft time.   Wonder if Clemson doesn't meet the map requirement to be in the metro area like U of SC does.  

Which could be part of the HUGE disparity of one school being the lead the school in draft picks .....and the other posting a goose egg despite Clemson putting more players into the NFL and being the better program during the Panthers era.  The rules just give them access to Gamecocks (which is an SEC program) without using top 30 visits. 

[countryboi]

You're looking at it the wrong way, After Bryce's third season, he's eligible for an extension. They need to know what they've got before this season wraps up. That's why they had to beef up the offense

[Tr3ach]

40 minutes ago, CRA said:

I wonder if the Carolina Panther Gamecock "fixation" is the downside of the "local visit" perk.  It's the only SEC school that checks the box and they get local visits out of it at draft time.   Wonder if Clemson doesn't meet the map requirement to be in the metro area like U of SC does.  

Which could be part of the HUGE disparity of one school being the lead the school in draft picks .....and the other posting a goose egg despite Clemson putting more players into the NFL and being the better program during the Panthers era.  The rules just give them access to Gamecocks (which is an SEC program) without using top 30 visits. 

This is what I found.  I don't even see how South Carolina fits within those rules honestly but I don't have a Rand McNally map if Charlotte handy lol

"By League rule, a "local" player is determined to be a player who is from the "local metropolitan area as defined by a current Rand McNally map." That means the player must be from within the shaded area of that metropolitan map. That League policy can be vague and also can be advantageous to some clubs over others."