Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

OFFICIAL Undrafted Free Agent thread

TheSpecialJuan

By TheSpecialJuan,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

KillerKat Grand Master

KillerKat

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

haha I edited mine while you were responding I see.

Need Moore over any UDFA in that room as it's already going to have two rookies and two in their 2nd year, Thielen can't do all the mentoring on his own to the whole room.

And would be surprised if we could get a player we drafted in the 6th and seem to like, to get through waivers and onto a PS, so if that was what we were going to try to do, should have just drafted Jacolby instead.

Looking at their profiles, not much difference between Jacolby and Horn Jr. It couldve been one of those things where they heard someone else was gonna draft their guy so they went ahead and drafted him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
tukafan21 Grand Master

tukafan21

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Looking at their profiles, not much difference between Jacolby and Horn Jr. It couldve been one of those things where they heard someone else was gonna draft their guy so they went ahead and drafted him.

I get that, but that doesn't change that I still don't love giving 200k+ guaranteed to an UDFA WR who if they make the squad, will be a 7th WR who only returns punts when part of the selling point of our 4th round pick was that they were also going to be our new returner, didn't realize that maybe meant only kick-offs and then we'd go do this for a new PR.

None of it is the decisions in a vacuum, it's the totality of them.

If Horn Jr also could be a KR, then maybe we should have used that 4th on something else, like a CB that would have possibly been more useful for us this year and found a 3rd RB in another way.

I'm not going to let it get me down as I love our draft on the whole, and getting one of the top Kicker's right after the draft too was actually maybe the best thing we did today.  But that's just a big guarantee for a player who'd be our 7th WR with no path to WR snaps like Coker last year.

  • Poo 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
theinstrumental Community Regular

theinstrumental

Posted
Posted
31 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

But we already have T-Mac, XL, Thielen, Coker, Moore and now Horn Jr.  

If we're keeping a 7th WR on the roster to be a return man, they better be handling both KR and PR duties or it's not worth the roster spot.

The only other option would be to cut Horn Jr (which would be weird because if that's the case, why not just draft Jacolby instead) or Moore, and with how young this WR room is, I'd much rather have Moore than an UDFA regardless of on the field roles.

Or we just gave 200k+ to a guy we're going to cut in a few months, which would be dumb too.

It’s also just possible that someone gets hurt or he’s a priority practice squad guy and we spent the money to make sure we got him in camp and familiar with the offense. We’ve got the wealthy owner, might as well use the money to improve things on the margins.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
panthers55 Grand Master

panthers55

Posted
Posted
9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I mean taking a $200k cap hit if he doesn't work out isn't the end of the world. It's just a little weird how heavy we are on youth at WR. Thielen is the only guy on the roster with over 1700 receiving yards. That's wild.

Won't count under the cap if he isn't one of the top 51 salaries

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
TheSpecialJuan Grand Master

TheSpecialJuan

Posted
  • Author
Posted

UNOFFICIAL

1 - QB Ethan Garbers, UCLA

2 - RB Kay’Ron Lynch, Michigan State 

3 - WR Jacolby George, Miami 

4 - WR Kobe Hudson, UCF 

5 - G/C Steven Losoya III, Vanderbilt 

6 - G Luke Kandra, Cincinnati 

7 - T Michael Tarquin, Oklahoma 

8 - K Ryan Fitzgerald, Florida State 

9 - LB Bam Martin-Scott, South Carolina 

10 - CB Mike Reid, South Dakota 

11 - CB Corey Thornton, Louisville 

12 - S Jack Henderson, Minnesota 

13 - S Trevian Thomas, Arkansas State 

14 - S Isaac Gifford, Nebraska 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
jfra78 Grand Master

jfra78

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

But we already have T-Mac, XL, Thielen, Coker, Moore and now Horn Jr.  

If we're keeping a 7th WR on the roster to be a return man, they better be handling both KR and PR duties or it's not worth the roster spot.

The only other option would be to cut Horn Jr (which would be weird because if that's the case, why not just draft Jacolby instead) or Moore, and with how young this WR room is, I'd much rather have Moore than an UDFA regardless of on the field roles.

Or we just gave 200k+ to a guy we're going to cut in a few months, which would be dumb too.

Moore could be gone

Link to comment
Share on other sites
tukafan21 Grand Master

tukafan21

Posted
Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Moore could be gone

If Moore is cut, we need to bring in another vet to replace him.

Right now our top 7 in the WR room is Rookie, Rookie, UDFA Rookie, 2nd Year, 2nd Year, Moore, and Thielen.  Not that I think Moore the player is someone we can't lose necessarily, but you need more than just Thielen in that WR room who has been in the league for more than a season to be able to help guide all the young guys.

It's why I was hoping to sign a vet as that shifty slot WR instead of taking Horn Jr, but I don't hate the tape I see on the kid and he has some potential and grit to his game, so I'm not upset at taking him.

Edited by tukafan21
Link to comment
Share on other sites
jfra78 Grand Master

jfra78

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

If Moore is cut, we need to bring in another vet to replace him.

Right now our top 7 in the WR room is Rookie, Rookie, UDFA Rookie, 2nd Year, 2nd Year, Moore, and Thielen.  Not that I think Moore the player is someone we can't lose necessarily, but you need more than just Thielen in that WR room who has been in the league for more than a season to be able to help guide all the young guys.

We have Theilen that's good enough.  I think he will be mostly in a mentor role this season

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • jfra78
      Draft Grades

      By jfra78 · Posted

      SI https://www.si.com/nfl/2025-nfl-draft-grades-analysis-for-every-team#_s4q414nom Grade: A- Analysis: The Panthers’ gamble to neglect the defense in the first round paid off, with the team selecting talented edge rushers Scourton and Umanmielen. But their prize from this draft class is the 6' 4", 213-pound McMillan, who will make life easier for Bryce Young because of his massive catch radius. McMillan got dinged a bit in the lead-up to the draft due to a few concerns with his work ethic, but he has the skill set to be the best wideout from this class when it’s all said and done. It’s tough to gauge where the Panthers are in their rebuild, but they’re finally giving Young a fair shake to succeed. —GM PFF https://www.pff.com/news/draft-grades-for-all-32-teams-2025-nfl-draft#car A+ 1 (8): WR Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona McMillan — The Panthers continue to build around Bryce Young, who led the NFL in big-time throws from Week 8 through the end of the regular season. Now, he has another downfield target. McMillan has been one of the most productive receivers in college football over the past two seasons, ranking in the 85th percentile or better among qualifying NCAA wideouts in receiving grade versus single coverage, yards per route run and contested-catch rate. 2 (51): ED Nic Scourton, Texas A&M Scourton — The Panthers trade up the board for an opportunity to add much-needed firepower on the defensive side of the ball. Scourton, the 29th-ranked player on the PFF Big Board, has an alluring combination of size and pass-rush moves, as well as the versatility to play in 3-4 or 4-3 fronts. Over the past two seasons, his 91.7 PFF pass-rush grade against true pass sets charted in the 94th percentile. 3 (77): ED Princely Umanmielen, Ole Miss Umanmielen — The Panthers moved up to target some pass-rush help with the selection of Umanmielen. The Ole Miss product was the No. 50 overall player on the PFF Big Board, and his 91.1 PFF grade ranked sixth among players at the position in 2024. 4 (114): RB Trevor Etienne, Georgia Etienne — At 5-foot-9 and 205 pounds, Trevor Etienne, brother of Jaguars running back Travis Etienne, is stoutly built and it showed on tape, as he forced 30 missed tackles on 126 rushing attempts. Despite missing time throughout various points of the season, Etienne still managed to rush for nine touchdowns while putting the ball on the ground only once. With Chuba Hubbard’s emergence this past season, Etienne provides Carolina with a power back who can spell him in short-yardage situations. 4 (122): S Lathan Ransom, Ohio State Ransom — Carolina continues to address areas of need on their defense by selecting Ransom after already adding a couple of edge defenders in previous rounds. The Panthers ranked 31st last season in explosive pass percentage allowed at 17.6% overall and now add to their secondary. 5 (140): DI Cam'Ron Jackson, Florida Jackson — Ranked No. 130 on the PFF Big Board, Jackson is a massive presence who can control the point of attack against the run. He posted an 80.9 run-defense grade last season along with a 9.3% run-stop rate. 5 (163): TE Mitchell Evans, Notre Dame Evans — Evans dominated defenders with the ball in the air in 2024, posting an impressive 72.7% contested-catch rate. 6 (208): WR Jimmy Horn Jr., Colorado Horn — Horn earned a 65.1 receiving grade last season while averaging 11.9 yards per reception. NFL.COM https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-draft-final-snap-grades-for-all-32-teams B- McMillan could be a threat in the mold of Drake London, but Carolina might have been better served by drafting one of the top tight ends (Colston Loveland, Tyler Warren) or defensive players (Jalon Walker) at No. 8. The Panthers doubled up on pass rushers Scourton and Umanmielen on Day 2. They could have improved the secondary with one of those picks, though, and found another edge defender on Saturday. Carolina used the fourth-round pick it received from Dallas in the Jonathan Mingo trade to select Etienne. That decision stood out since the team rewarded Chuba Hubbard with an extension last year, signed Rico Dowdle in free agency and spent a top-50 pick on Jonathon Brooks, who is recovering from his second ACL tear in as many years, in 2024. Ransom's downhill play should get him on the field for the Panthers quickly, as will the size and surprising agility of run-stopper Jackson. I expect Evans to thrive early in his career in 12 personnel. CBS https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2025-nfl-draft-grades-for-every-team-giants-raiders-commanders-deliver-steelers-49ers-receive-poor-marks/amp/ I love the way general manager Dan Morgan approached this draft. Get Bryce Young a premier weapon first, then throw loads of resources at the defense. Scourton and Umanmielen have polished games and rocked in the SEC at defensive end.  Etienne is a young runner with Chuba Hubbard-like ability, and Ransom will provide stability at safety. Jackson blocks out the sun on the interior, and Evans is an overachieving tight end who could become a favorite security blanket for Young.  Grade: A-
    • csx
      Round 4 - Panthers draft Trevor Etienne RB UGA

      By csx · Posted

      The NFL average for running backs on the active roster is 3.6. Cleveland was the only teams to carry less than 3. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BB0RlET2BU3TiotTmk6hMWl-36d06VAaSLUsr4jS_hM/pubhtml
    • CPF4LIFE
      OFFICIAL Undrafted Free Agent thread

      By CPF4LIFE · Posted

      Good lord. Dude is a missile 
×
×
  • Create New...