That second round pick from last year. Sheesh

[TD alt]

32 minutes ago, Panthero said:

Go ahead, then divide by all the RBs drafted and tell me what the percentage is. Spoiler: it's extremely low, which is my point. Picking individual data points does not change the probability of being drafted in the first round vs all drafted runningbacks. 

Your argument = some great RBs in the first round, ok fair. 

My argument = some great RBs in the first round ÷ all running backs in all rounds. 

My number is much smaller. That's what sets the typical price for RBs, not the outliers at the top. 

Dude, you can probably do that with every single position. 

My point is that on the field, RBs play a key role. They play a vital role on every single play. The position is one of the most important in football. Generally, if you have a very good one, that puts you even more ahead of the game. You can try and argue otherwise, but anyone that knows basically anything about the game, knows that the position is vital to the game. The position is highly valued and central to the game. That's why teams try and acquire a top one via the draft, or in free agency, especially if they're on the cusp of championships. 

All that being said, the position has a relatively short shelf life due to the sheer physicality and centrality of it, so it takes a toll on the best of them. As such that has affected its market value as a whole--not the value that it has on Sundays--and that has caused teams to be reluctant to pay top-of-the-line money for RBs on a relative basis when it comes time to renew their contracts. Even still, the cream of crop can still make a decent payday compared to most players on the team, even though their salaries are a fraction of what some QBs, DEs, and WRs make due to the nature of those positions. But, you know what? Their skills are still coveted, and the vital roles that they play are still central to a team's success. Taking everything into account, smart GMs are always trying to balance the necessity of their play vs the brutality of the position vs what is fair pay in light of all of those realities.

I can't say it any more simple than that. Hopefully you understand what I'm saying, even if you don't agree with everything (or anything). It's OK either way. We're still good.

[Panthero]

3 hours ago, Icege said:

The JB pick made sense at the time.

As has been covered ad nauseum, the ONLY back on the roster was Miles Sanders. Chuba had not been extended (that didn't happen until ~Oct/Nov).

The Panthers made a move to jump in front of the Giants who had JUST let Saquon walk and were desperate for a starting RB. Panthers made the jump and got a guy they were okay with letting rest most of the season.

The re-injury was a freak accident. Nobody can sincerely claim to know when and where it would happen.

This is a major reason for the instability we have seen flourish on the Huddle: people want to ignore the truth and scream their belief until they've convinced others. If we take just a moment to try to understand the thought process + situation it makes it much, much more difficult to spread our malaise.

If a poster is just trying to be angry and miserly, then by all means they can keep gaslighting themselves... just don't pretend to be a victim or better than everybody else when called on it.

Shut up, nerd. 

[Panthero]

3 hours ago, TD alt said:

Dude, you can probably do that with every single position. 

My point is that on the field, RBs play a key role. They play a vital role on every single play. The position is one of the most important in football. Generally, if you have a very good one, that puts you even more ahead of the game. You can try and argue otherwise, but anyone that knows basically anything about the game, knows that the position is vital to the game. The position is highly valued and central to the game. That's why teams try and acquire a top one via the draft, or in free agency, especially if they're on the cusp of championships. 

All that being said, the position has a relatively short shelf life due to the sheer physicality and centrality of it, so it takes a toll on the best of them. As such that has affected its market value as a whole--not the value that it has on Sundays--and that has caused teams to be reluctant to pay top-of-the-line money for RBs on a relative basis when it comes time to renew their contracts. Even still, the cream of crop can still make a decent payday compared to most players on the team, even though their salaries are a fraction of what some QBs, DEs, and WRs make due to the nature of those positions. But, you know what? Their skills are still coveted, and the vital roles that they play are still central to a team's success. Taking everything into account, smart GMs are always trying to balance the necessity of their play vs the brutality of the position vs what is fair pay in light of all of those realities.

I can't say it any more simple than that. Hopefully you understand what I'm saying, even if you don't agree with everything (or anything). It's OK either way. We're still good.

I checked with every other position. Wanna know the only position with less representation in the first round? Kickers and Punters, with safety being close. Lol. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

22 hours ago, Coheed said:

We drafted Edmund Kugbila years ago just before David Bakhtiari went.

 

no point in harping on what could but didn’t happen. Always been a crapshoot. 

I was trying to remember that guy's name watching the draft on Saturday.  Never played a snap iirc.

I mean poo Amini Silatolu was trash but at least he got on the field.

Edited 5 hours ago by The NFL Shield At Midfield

[Icege]

13 minutes ago, Panthero said:

Shut up, nerd. 

[Panthero]

16 minutes ago, Icege said:

Dang it. This guy isn't falling for the bait either! 

[TD alt]

30 minutes ago, Panthero said:

I checked with every other position. Wanna know the only position with less representation in the first round? Kickers and Punters, with safety being close. Lol. 

But that's due to the physical nature of the position. Perhaps you will get what I'm talking about--another perspective--if you calculate how many times an RB actually touches the ball compared to other positions.

[Panthero]

Just now, TD alt said:

But that's due to the physical nature of the position. Perhaps you will get what I'm talking about--another perspective--if you calculate how many times an RB actually touches the ball compared to other positions.

you are arguing a different point than I am. Took me a minute to figure that out so we're cool. Still gonna bust your balls though......cause you're wrong.