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PFF: The Carolina Panthers are having an ELITE draft…


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34 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I sure hope they're right. But it's also worth noting that our head analytics guy is the former head analytics guy at PFF so our moves are always going to have a high chance of being viewed well by PFF. We're probably using a lot of the same metrics.

How new is he? Did they have him during last year's draft?

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1 minute ago, Navy_football said:

Gotcha. He may have just earned himself a bonus/raise/promotion. 

I'm not for overly relying on number crunching and bean counting but we have been undeniably drafting horribly for years now so I'm not going to complain about trying a new approach that's for sure.

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47 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I sure hope they're right. But it's also worth noting that our head analytics guy is the former head analytics guy at PFF so our moves are always going to have a high chance of being viewed well by PFF. We're probably using a lot of the same metrics.

That's how the Eagles draft too.  They brought in an analytics guy like that too.

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1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

But you can't say that the player isn't at the top of their boards

Well, as far as I know, teams don't publish that information, nor should they. We can only draw conclusions based on the knowledge and opinions of others. It's just the nature of the beast. For example, if Tennessee has drafted Jaxon Dart at number one, we'd all have been like WTF?

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1 minute ago, TD alt said:

Well, as far as I know, teams don't publish that information, nor should they. We can only draw conclusions based on the knowledge and opinions of others. It's just the nature of the beast. For example, if Tennessee has drafted Jaxon Dart at number one, we'd all have been like WTF?

Sure, but if they drafted him #1 he would be BPA on their board.  

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22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not for overly relying on number crunching and bean counting but we have been undeniably drafting horribly for years now so I'm not going to complain about trying a new approach that's for sure.

We'll see how it all plays out on the field but this draft just feels smarter / better than the past few.

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4 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Sure, but if they drafted him #1 he would be BPA on their board.  

Ah ha, would he have been? I would say we gave them a pass on the reach even with Cam Ward because he was a QB. There were likely a handful of players whom most NFL types were generational type players during the pre draft process, and Ward wasn't one of them.  That being said, we give teams a reach pass in the first round for QBs because franchise QBs are so hard to find, but also central to a team's success. But, take the Falcons, I'm pretty sure that most will say that they reached for James Pearce by giving up way too much value to jump up and get him. 

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2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Ah ha, would he have been? I would say we gave them a pass on the reach even with Cam Ward because he was a QB. There were likely a handful of players whom most NFL types were generational type players during the pre draft process, and Ward wasn't one of them.  That being said, we give teams a reach pass in the first round for QBs because franchise QBs are so hard to find, but also central to a team's success. But, take the Falcons, I'm pretty sure that most will say that they reached for James Pearce by giving up way too much value to jump up and get him. 

The whole BPA thing just doesn't make sense because every team always takes the best player according to them 

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