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2025 NFL Draft - Day 2 Discussion


Bear Hands
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I'm not going to pretend I know anything about him, but the top Center in the draft and 42nd best player on ESPN's board is still out there and I can't help but think that's a possible 10 year starter at a position of need.

Anyone know anything about this kid?

Should we trade one of the 4th's and maybe both 5th's to get back in the 3rd here to take him and lock that position down for years to come?

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