Stirs Mock 1.0

[stirs]

1. Cincinnati - Bowers DE Cincinnati ranked near the bottom of the league in sacks and had to get in front of Denver to pick up the sack artist they desired.

2. Denver - Fairley DT Fox moves to plan B which is not far from Plan A and still a need when moving back to the 4-3

3. Buffalo - Newton QB Fitzgerald will hold down the position till about week 6 when Buffalo finds themselves already on the outside of the playoffs

4. Carolina - Green WR Best player in the draft and heir apparent to the declining Smith. Carolina also picks up Cincinnati's 2nd rounder this year and 2nd rounder next year.

Panthers

2nd - Liuget - DT - Illinois

3rd - Burton - CB - Utah

3rd - Powe - DT - Ole Miss

[Jackofalltrades]

I'd have no problem with that at all.

An OG would be nice for competition/depth, but I like it.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Really doubt anyone gives up two 2nd rounders to move up four spots to take Bowers. Maybe if they fall in love with a quarterback AND think there's a good shot he'll be taken ahead of them, but for a DE? Possible but highly unlikely. Even if he is their top guy they'd most likely sit tight and hope he falls to them and just go with their #2 option if he doesn't.

As for Liuget and Powe, neither of them have impressed me all that much from the tape I've watched.

[DynastyRTR]

Really doubt anyone gives up two 2nd rounders to move up four spots to take Bowers. Maybe if they fall in love with a quarterback AND think there's a good shot he'll be taken ahead of them, but for a DE? Possible but highly unlikely. Even if he is their top guy they'd most likely sit tight and hope he falls to them and just go with their #2 option if he doesn't.

As for Liuget and Powe, neither of them have impressed me all that much from the tape I've watched.

after watching this video of Liuget, if he puts on about 15 lbs, he could be a dominant NT in the 3-4. he stuffs running lanes like crazy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlprPUyKL8M

[carpanfan96]

Considering some have Bowers and Quinn rated similarly and that Cinci can get one or the other at the 4 spot. Doubt it happens. Also don't see Carolina taking a WR even if they trade Smitty away for a 4th or 5th rounder. (it's all they are going to get, sorry guys.)

Also most scouts have Fairley rated #2 among Dt's now, so I don't they he goes top 5 now...

Highly possible though on draft order though and I'd deffinitely take the trade if they offered it.

[SorthNarolina]

Really doubt anyone gives up two 2nd rounders to move up four spots to take Bowers. Maybe if they fall in love with a quarterback AND think there's a good shot he'll be taken ahead of them, but for a DE? Possible but highly unlikely. Even if he is their top guy they'd most likely sit tight and hope he falls to them and just go with their #2 option if he doesn't.

As for Liuget and Powe, neither of them have impressed me all that much from the tape I've watched.

Usually in trades I've seen the future pick is usually valued as the current middle pick in one round lower. Or half the value of the middle pick in the same round sam.

So the 2nd rounder next year would be like the 17th pick in the 3rd this year. Or half the value of a 17th next year.

But yeah I agree that would be too much. A 4th would be more like it.