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2025 NFL Draft - Round 1 Discussion


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1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

XL honestly looks like a loss cause to me. Might explain more why we took Tet at 8

I mean, I think they still want to attempt to develop him but the pursuit of Higgins should have been the dead giveaway that they probably now view him as a long term project, at best. I think that is accurate. 

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Kiper KOD for poor Matt Golden.

I did too.  Cincy might take a CB or Bama LB Campbell.  It is going to be difficult for Morgan to wait through 20 somethng picks in the second.  I think he will trade up a bit. 

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Just now, NAS said:

Morgan kept talking about Tet’s hands and body control, things that XL struggled with

I mean.....our best WR has consistently been a guy WAY slower than Tet with exceptional hands. At the end of the day, that 40 time doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't catch the ball. 

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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

I did too.  Cincy might take a CB or Bama LB Campbell.  It is going to be difficult for Morgan to wait through 20 somethng picks in the second.  I think he will trade up a bit. 

The CB's dropping are wild. This is a pretty deep class there, although perhaps loaded with a lot of scheme specific players. 

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1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Wasn't big on him when we drafted him, but the dude has no idea how to run a route. Rounds off most of his in/out routes and has no clue where to get open against zone coverage 

I wasn't big on him either but I didnt think he looked that bad to write him off so soon. 

 

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