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Round 1 - Panthers Select Tetairoa McMillan at Pick 8


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14 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I have no clue where this WR6 thing is coming from. ESPN rated him just below Odunze over BTJ at 4 and Brugler has him at WR3 in last class. There has to be some random site showing this that I’ve yet to see. It’s a weird point as you won’t see many Nabers and MHJs in draft classes. OSU does have one coming up in 2 years but he will be a top 5 easy. 

A Lot of people had T-Mac rated 4th or 5th in this class. 

I think he makes an immediate impact and considering the master class that was day 2... This will probably end up being one of the Panthers best draft classes ever. 

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2 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

A Lot of people had T-Mac rated 4th or 5th in this class. 

I think he makes an immediate impact and considering the master class that was day 2... This will probably end up being one of the Panthers best draft classes ever. 

I once heard, and have never been able to get it out of my mind, that you are solid if you draft 2 starters (immediate).  TMac is a day 1 starter.  Scourton is a day 1 starter.  I think Ransom has a good chance of starting on day 1.  He has the tools the Panthers covet.  Princely will probably rotate in, so I won't count him. Etienne will rotate in. Cam Jackson will probably rotate in. Evans will rotate in at TE, if he does not start.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I once heard, and have never been able to get it out of my mind, that you are solid if you draft 2 starters (immediate).  TMac is a day 1 starter.  Scourton is a day 1 starter.  I think Ransom has a good chance of starting on day 1.  He has the tools the Panthers covet.  Princely will probably rotate in, so I won't count him. Etienne will rotate in. Cam Jackson will probably rotate in. Evans will rotate in at TE, if he does not start.

 

 

McShay thought it was a reach, but conceded due to the lack of blue chip WRs Tet was going high anyway. He wasn't a fan of the Scourton pick either at where we picked in round two in the trade up. He felt it was a reach because we passed on getting a better EDGE prospect in round1.  His draft evaluation (in this particular episode I watched) was not about grades but fits and value.  He didn't think our first two picks met the value of where selected them. 

He really liked Ransom pick (I think we all do) and thought the Evans selection was sneaky good.

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7 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

A Lot of people had T-Mac rated 4th or 5th in this class. 

I think he makes an immediate impact and considering the master class that was day 2... This will probably end up being one of the Panthers best draft classes ever. 

No.

SOME people had him ranked lower, but in no world did "a lot of people" have him ranked that low, the overwhelming majority of experts, analysts, whatever you want to call them had him as the #1 or #2 WR in the class depending on if they kept Hunter in that category or not, or at worst maybe 3rd behind Hunter and then like Golden or something.

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One of the things that makes TMac an interesting big receiver prospect, is how low he can dip his hips in and out of breaks. This may not seem like a meaningful trait to most, but this is something that, physically, a lot of big guys cannot do well. This limits their flexibility, their ability to beat man to man, and the ability to make themselves skinny/small in run after the catch in traffic. 

This has been an asset to him, particularly on 3rd down and in the red zone. Both places this offense struggled receiver-wise. 

If you rewatch any videos of him, watch him on 3rd and in red zone. He seems to always get open and he never drops a ball. Other situations? Sure, he can use some development to create separation, but here? He's a weapon already.

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Been forgetting to ask this too......

Did anyone else who was watching the draft on NFL Network have a real strong feeling that we took T-Mac in the 30 seconds leading up to our pick when the analysts were getting their last words in?

Those guys know the picks by then, even if the truck hasn't told them in their ear, they see it on Twitter and/or hear it from their sources as they're constantly still trying to get the most up to date information second by second.

The first guy to talk first said how we had a horrible defense and that's where he would go, but then when Eisen said something like "so sounds like you're predicting defense" he quickly started talking about how we still need weapons for Bryce and could see us go offense as well.  But it was the second guy who was talking about how he thought we'd take defense in the past tense.  He even said something like "I thought they were going to go defense and Walker was going to be the guy I'd have taken."

Now maybe it was just me hoping we'd take my guy, but just the way he said it, it very much sounded like he knew we took an offensive player, it was the toughest 30 seconds of my life to not get too excited since, well, you know.

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25 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Been forgetting to ask this too......

Did anyone else who was watching the draft on NFL Network have a real strong feeling that we took T-Mac in the 30 seconds leading up to our pick when the analysts were getting their last words in?

Those guys know the picks by then, even if the truck hasn't told them in their ear, they see it on Twitter and/or hear it from their sources as they're constantly still trying to get the most up to date information second by second.

The first guy to talk first said how we had a horrible defense and that's where he would go, but then when Eisen said something like "so sounds like you're predicting defense" he quickly started talking about how we still need weapons for Bryce and could see us go offense as well.  But it was the second guy who was talking about how he thought we'd take defense in the past tense.  He even said something like "I thought they were going to go defense and Walker was going to be the guy I'd have taken."

Now maybe it was just me hoping we'd take my guy, but just the way he said it, it very much sounded like he knew we took an offensive player, it was the toughest 30 seconds of my life to not get too excited since, well, you know.

A lot of times I turn the volume off until they’re announcing the pick on the podium. The announcers tip picks all the time and it’s annoying as hell

you see them look at a screen once the pick rolls in and then say something about a position of need or what they think X team is about to do after talking about a different position 5 seconds earlier 

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8 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

A lot of times I turn the volume off until they’re announcing the pick on the podium. The announcers tip picks all the time and it’s annoying as hell

you see them look at a screen once the pick rolls in and then say something about a position of need or what they think X team is about to do after talking about a different position 5 seconds earlier 

I actually put my phone on airplane mode around the 5th pick.

While I know my friends, if we took T-Mac, they'd have let me have the moment and would have kept quiet.  But if they saw we took someone else on Twitter before it was shown, I don't think they'd have been able to hold back from sending some half cryptic text.

In the end, I was right, if they did see it beforehand, nobody texted me, but I'm still glad I did it as it gave me a moment that I'll kinda never forget.  And I say kinda, because while I won't forget Thursday night, in a way, I kinda blacked out for the next hour, at one point I looked up and saw they were on like the 12th or 13th pick at that point, I had zero idea what had gone on, my head was still spinning.

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9 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’m hoping the Panthers use McMillan much like the Broncos use Sutton. McMillan excels over the middle of the field with digs/crossing routes. So hopefully they move McMillan around and allow him to be a power slot

Maybe in a year or two, but for this year, T-Mac needs to almost exclusively line up on the outside.

Yes, T-Mac very much excels in that power slot role, and it would be smart for us to use him that way.  But right now we basically have T-Mac and a whole bunch of guys who are probably best suited to line up out of the slot.

We need to develop XL and Coker more so they can slide our there when T-Mac slides into the slot for a snap.

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