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Tony Pauline: Patriots taking LB Jalon Walker @4


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6 hours ago, MechaZain said:

BPA is a lie and I wish we'd stop talking about it like there's a universal power ranking for the draft class. It's meaningless because "best" and "need" are both highly subjective team by team. Most media big boards had Fletcher Cox ahead of Luke.

The good teams have the luxury of low stakes picks and incrementally upgrading the roster because they don't really have needs. The bad teams have needs at critical positions that are hard to draft, as we well know. 

so sure we can draft BPA we have done it before on numerous occasions & as a result had some of the best drafts in franchise history .

& like this team just  thought they had absolutely no other choice but to  draft a WR with the first pick last year & then what happens we sign (UDFA ) a WR who might wind up being better than that WR we though we had to trade up into the 1st round to draft 

building quality football teams takes alot of patience & a rookie edge rusher is not going to fix this team what is going to fix this team is talent/BPA  patience & making good decisions...just saying 

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6 hours ago, Shotgun said:

 

Yes BPA is a myth. Certain positions will always be weighted. 

 

Plus, every NFL team says the prospect that they draft was the BPA at the time of the pick. I’ve never once heard a GM say “We liked player _____ more, but player _____ filled more of a need. It’s a pointless exercise  

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5 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

Then hit up the Giants who will likely draft Carter and rumor is shopping Thibodeaux and trade a 3rd.

Seems too simple..  

If he is available,  most definitely!!!  I saw that but wondering how they were gonna approach that come draft night. A bunch of players on the block. Even tight ends like Kittle, Andrew's and Mayer too. Jameson Williams etc. Definitely  different  avenues to improve the team with later round capital!

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26 minutes ago, Lurk21 said:

If he is available,  most definitely!!!  I saw that but wondering how they were gonna approach that come draft night. A bunch of players on the block. Even tight ends like Kittle, Andrew's and Mayer too. Jameson Williams etc. Definitely  different  avenues to improve the team with later round capital!

Geepers.. could you imagine..

Trade Motion

1st Round: Draft Will Campbell or Membou

Trade 3rd to the Giants for Thibodeaux 

Trade 2nd to Raiders for Mayer

I mean this is playing Madden but then suddenly you come out of the draft -30,000,000 in cap and 3 young players to build around. 

 

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2 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

Geepers.. could you imagine..

Trade Motion

1st Round: Draft Will Campbell or Membou

Trade 3rd to the Giants for Thibodeaux 

Trade 2nd to Raiders for Mayer

I mean this is playing Madden but then suddenly you come out of the draft -30,000,000 in cap and 3 young players to build around. 

 

Mayer is not worth a 2nd

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6 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

Geepers.. could you imagine..

Trade Motion

1st Round: Draft Will Campbell or Membou

Trade 3rd to the Giants for Thibodeaux 

Trade 2nd to Raiders for Mayer

I mean this is playing Madden but then suddenly you come out of the draft -30,000,000 in cap and 3 young players to build around. 

 

I don't think it'd take a 2nd for mayer. Probably  more like a 4th and we got a few of those. 

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