I kinda hate getting our pick spoiled but at least the Huddle has more Time to debate

[carpanfan96]

Also I'm pretty sure the Panthers are in the majority of teams that have Loveland higher on their board. 

 

I've said from the start that if Walker is there he's the pick.

Still on that train of thought and have gotten nothing that would change that way of thinking. 

Edited 5 hours ago by carpanfan96

[CPF4LIFE]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

our biggest need is still developing and answering the QB question. 

True. But this idea that we need to go balls out dedicate all resources to offense to figure that out is just wrong. And I'm pretty sure the team feels the same way. 

[CRA]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

Bryce is going to have to learn to run Canales offense or be shown the door. 

That's dumb though.   It just means you have a HC that won't/can't adjust to win.  That's dinosaur behavior. 

and it also means, you should of just moved on from Bryce Young last year and this whole thing is just going to be a waste of time.   Bryce Young just flat out doesn't fit that mold of QB play.  

I personally don't think Canales is that bad and stubborn.  I think going into last season he basically conceded they would move on from Bryce.  But now?  Well, now he has a job to do.   Best plan of action is to continue down the path of him being a QB guru.....not an old head stuck to football has to be played one way. 

[carpanfan96]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

That's dumb though.   It just means you have a HC that won't/can't adjust to win.  That's dinosaur behavior. 

and it also means, you should of just moved on from Bryce Young last year and this whole thing is just going to be a waste of time.   Bryce Young just flat out doesn't fit that mold of QB play.  

I personally don't think Canales is that bad and stubborn.  I think going into last season he basically conceded they would move on from Bryce.  But now?  Well, now he has a job to do.   Best plan of action is to continue down the path of him being a QB guru.....not an old head stuck to football has to be played one way. 

Did you see who they signed to start at TE??? Tremble was signed to start at TE. Lol 

 

He doesn't value the TE and he expects his QB's to be able to throw to the numbers. Which is what Bryce is going to be expected to do. 

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

True. But this idea that we need to go balls out dedicate all resources to offense to figure that out is just wrong. And I'm pretty sure the team feels the same way. 

well, it's not balls out.....to address the fact all we got over the middle of the field is slow AT.  

I'm sure the old slow guy that was about to retire after last year and missed 7 games....is a poor bet to make going forward.    Cupboard is pretty bare in terms of guys who fit the bill of getting the ball out quick to.  

I don't like Bryce.  But I have said since the day we drafted him....you got to get him receiving talent otu of the backfield and slot/TE play.  Otherwise, what's the real point. 

[TD alt]

Just what we need: more time to debate. 

[PootieNunu]

3 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Just what we need: more time to debate. 

Its even better when its the same person debating himself on 3 different accounts. 

Edited 5 hours ago by PootieNunu

[CRA]

10 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Did you see who they signed to start at TE??? Tremble was signed to start at TE. Lol 

 

He doesn't value the TE and he expects his QB's to be able to throw to the numbers. Which is what Bryce is going to be expected to do. 

All TEs on the roster aren't supposed to lean toward recieving weapons.  I got no issue with Tremble.  But he is what he is.   Tremble is there to aid w/ the run game. 

Panthers spent a trillion dollars all things considered on Bryce Young.  Last year they got a surprise from him.  Worst thing they can do is stick with square peg/round hole mindset that Bryce has to fit something no one would ever have argued he would/should be in. 

So I'm sticking w/ my same position.  You got to greatly improve at two spots at Bryce is your QB.  Middle of the field and out of the backfield.  The short pass game.  If you weren't interested in that.....then you should of never of drafted Bryce Young let alone given up the farm for him.  And majority of the people at BOA signed up for the Bryce Young project.  

[45catfan]

1 hour ago, Byrdman4real said:

This

He is the only sure thing that could be available at 8 and could be BPA.

It's a no brainer

Most mocks have Warren going to the Colts at #14.  Where someone is drafted and where they are ranked on a Big Board can be, and often are, not the same. Here is Klatt's opinion on this with the Colts pick.  Something I was saying to another poster earlier this morning and then I just ran across this video a short time ago.

 

[ForJimmy]

29 minutes ago, CRA said:

if Bryce Young is going to be your QB......the O simply has to cater to what he does well and doesn't.

What Canales did in Tampa and Seattle isn't Bryce Young.   It was home run football downfield. 

During that last stretch Young was one of the best deep ball QBs in the NFL.  He was running DC's offense and it was looking great despite needing some more weapons.  

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

51 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Our offense devalues the TE, so why take one early when he isn't going to be used as a weapon? 

You are right on that, but offense schemes need to evolve with talent on field. I would like to see if Sanders can develop as well......I just think having a TE who can read defensive zone coverages for pockets AND can body 1 on 1 defenders is invaluable for an offense.

[CRA]

30 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

During that last stretch Young was one of the best deep ball QBs in the NFL.  He was running DC's offense and it was looking great despite needing some more weapons.  

Bryce wasn't even cracking an average of 200 yards per game in regulation to close out the year.  We were 30th in passing yards on the season.  

He made great strides vs his rookie year.  Glaring change.  But that was glaring simply because of how historically bad his rookie year was.  We are still a bad passing offense.  2024 was a bad passing O.   

I'm not buying whatever stat twisting was done to come up w/ Bryce was one of the best deep passers in the league. 

I still think it's simple.  You want Bryce to succeed? You need pass catchers out of the backfield.   You need slot/TE play.  You need YAC.  You need him to be what you drafted him to be.  We were way below average in terms of production out of the backfield.  We were way below average in terms of YAC.   Dreaming up we can somehow make Bryce some chunk play passer downfield is not something worth bothering with. 

Trade him if you don't want build around the dude you mortgaged our future on.  Keep him and play to his strengths.  I don't care which one.  But pick.  I give them a pass going into last year of things conflicting.   Now you got to pick IMO. 

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Bryce needs much better slot/middle of the field and backfield receivers.  That's basically his game. 

I still say XL was picked back when 99% thought we were moving on from Bryce Young in short order.  XL fits what Canales did in Seattle and Tampa.   Still need that role in any offense but all the bread and butter Bryce throws need upgrades. 

Great point. This offense isn't fixed by any means and with the lack of proven weapons at the TE position we have I say keep firing. When a team has a legit TE threat it's changes the game. It just does.

Now is Sanders that guy idk I hope so! but it isn't Tremble sooooo?

[Shocker]

Walker is my dude