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Its the reason for the season


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The trade up to #1 was bad on so many levels. Maybe the trade into the first last year. Not making the Burns trade and then the trade they ended up making looks bad in comparison but not stand alone. The CMC trade could be up there but that one was complex given the Panthers situation at that time.

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2 hours ago, Waldo said:

The trade up to #1 was bad on so many levels. Maybe the trade into the first last year. Not making the Burns trade and then the trade they ended up making looks bad in comparison but not stand alone. The CMC trade could be up there but that one was complex given the Panthers situation at that time.

Regarding the CMC deal, I think what is most bothersome is we essentially got pennies on the dollar for a premium player.

I realize that there is some cold comfort in the Mingo business, and getting something in return for Anderson and Johnson but those 3 players are also examples of some high level dysfunction and failure in the organization.

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15 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Regarding the CMC deal, I think what is most bothersome is we essentially got pennies on the dollar for a premium player.

I realize that there is some cold comfort in the Mingo business, and getting something in return for Anderson and Johnson but those 3 players are also examples of some high level dysfunction and failure in the organization.

Both CMC and Burns were leaned into because they kept missing at so many other places so when it came to contracts they both got weird. CMC wasn't healthy and isn't healthy still while Burns was never a core guy because he just doesn't produce like a core guy. I never got the CMC crying. He is a beast when healthy but he isn't healthy enough and regardless we won more without him than we did the year we traded him away. RBs just don't have the value fans what to see. Even the Eagles got their RB for just cap in free agency lol. None of us have to like it but that's the value of the best backs in the game right now.

The other trades were positives because they moved on and got anything they could but I agree with what you said and would add that the poor drafting just compounds it all looking worse and dysfunctional at the end. Fritterers needless trade backs for lesser talent left a hole that Rhules obliviousness to how the NFL is run started IMO.

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12 hours ago, Whoops said:

I’m going to guess the Sean Gilbert trade.  Maybe Olsen. 

The Sean Gilbert trade is kind of funny in retrospect.  I'm not quite sure what the Panthers expected from him.  He had a great season in 1993, but he hadn't been producing like that on a yearly basis.  His 1998 line is basically what you would expect given the last few years of his career.  But at the time, I just remember everyone being furious that he wasn't Aaron Donald essentially.  It's just puzzling, because he had only been argubly that good for one season.

Either way, it was completely stupid to give two 1st round picks for him at 28 years old.

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54 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Both CMC and Burns were leaned into because they kept missing at so many other places so when it came to contracts they both got weird. CMC wasn't healthy and isn't healthy still while Burns was never a core guy because he just doesn't produce like a core guy. I never got the CMC crying. He is a beast when healthy but he isn't healthy enough and regardless we won more without him than we did the year we traded him away. RBs just don't have the value fans what to see. Even the Eagles got their RB for just cap in free agency lol. None of us have to like it but that's the value of the best backs in the game right now.

The other trades were positives because they moved on and got anything they could but I agree with what you said and would add that the poor drafting just compounds it all looking worse and dysfunctional at the end. Fritterers needless trade backs for lesser talent left a hole that Rhules obliviousness to how the NFL is run started IMO.

Yeah, we actually got quite a haul for CMC. It's just that we squandered 100% of the resources we received in return.

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41 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, we actually got quite a haul for CMC. It's just that we squandered 100% of the resources we received in return.

We would've done the same with a 1st round pick for him, if that's what we had gotten. Same with the rumored 2 firsts for Burns. I am confident we would've found some way to waste it on stupid poo. It's what we do.

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21 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

We would've done the same with a 1st round pick for him, if that's what we had gotten. Same with the rumored 2 firsts for Burns. I am confident we would've found some way to waste it on stupid poo. It's what we do.

I agree. It's really the principle that we got upset about for the Burns trade, less so the ignorant horseshit we would have used it on.

I do think there was likely no team in the NFL willing to give up a 1st for CMC at that time.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, we actually got quite a haul for CMC. It's just that we squandered 100% of the resources we received in return.

I was always fine with that deal but some people still use it as a negative because the haul wasn'tenough in their minds to justify trading him away. The haul was fine but it's still debated even if I agree with your take. That's why I said that one was complex and weird in my previous post.

They absolutely would have blown those picks, Fritterer was our worst GM to date. Still even a broken clock and all of that.

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