Cam Newton: Self-proclaimed entertainer, icon

[MHS831]

You of all people should know that words are cheap and people tell you what you want to hear. Why not read some articles about his actions on the field, discussions with his coaches, fellow teammates. How about Whitfield who is working with him right now in the present. All accounts suggest that he does work work very hard, is a born leader and wants to be the best at his craft.

Seems to me he is doing everything right in the world of actions and behaviors. But lets ignore all that and focus on a tweet by Peter King and ignore the rest.

So the evidence is clear, do you still pretend to ignore the obvious??

Damage control and promotional propoganda over the last few months does not erase what he has done over the last several years. I never said he didn't have good qualities. Why would I read articles about CN on the field when he has never been on an NFL field and my concerns are off the field? I am saying that I have a strong background in sports and psychology. There are some perception problems at play here.

He could be great and we could all benefit. One of the articles I read discuss that first rounders pay off 60% of the time, but only 50% of the QBs do. When character concerns come up, the 50% drops. You admitted that there are character concerns because you explained how the Panthers will look into them. If so, then now is not the time to be promoting Cam Newton.

[Vagrant]

There is no quarterback in this draft worth a 1st overall. I wish they would stop trying to manufacture one. If we're dumb enough to buy his hype and draft him, we deserve our fate of being in position to draft another one the year after.

[Mr. Scot]

Everyone has the right to state their opinion here for sure. I can understand why some folks don't like him or want to draft him. Doesn't make you wrong at all. The Panthers may agree with you.

Stereotyping all Newton supporters as being the same is no better than those who criticize the detractors as having racial motives or whatever.

I've seen plenty of posts - and one thread - specifically aimed at questioning what kind of person someone was, and all because they were questioning Newton.

You want to question someone's logic, their reasoning, their facts, or even their intelligence? That's par for the course. Suggesting someone might be a bad person just because they don't like the same quarterback prospect you do is off-base.

[MHS831]

There is no quarterback in this draft worth a 1st overall. I wish they would stop trying to manufacture one. If we're dumb enough to buy his hype and draft him, we deserve our fate of being in position to draft another one the year after.

Agreed. A month ago he was not even a first rounder. Besides, this seems so contrary to what Hurney and the Panthers would do. I hope the hype continues, but only so we can trade down.

[SmootsDaddy89]

Literally anything that could possibly be taken as negative about Cam turns into a 10 page thread. Then Cam detractors come in like "SEE OMG WE SHOULD DRAFT BLAINE GABBERT. He's so committed to not being controversial that he isn't even going to throw at the combine, lest he accidentally cave some dude's face in with an errant throw. WHY WON'T CAM DO THE SAME?"

[panthers55]

Hyperbole? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/columnist?id=1540370

Many more articles like this one address the risk of the first round QB bust.

If we need to research his character to make sure it is not problematic (I agree 100%), why are so many people calling for us to draft him now? Should they not be saying, "We need to investigate these character concerns, and look for tells in the comments he makes to the press"? That is my only point.

The hyperbole was the comment you made that drafting him would set us back 5 years.

As for the risk of first round busts, I have at least 2 articles that suggest that there are just as many first round busts at DE, DT than there are at QB. The difference is that you can find a franchise guy at those positions in free agency or later in the draft a lot easier than you can find a franchise quarterback. So the risk of drafting a quarterback in the first round is not worse than drafting most other positions but the reward is significantly higher.

I think we will research his character and should turn over every stone before we made our decision. I am looking forward to the combine. I am also pretty happy that Newton is putting it out there and competing instead of shrinking away from challenges. That is one of the primary reasons I support him at this point. Unless I hear something to the contrary, I think he is the real deal. I believe that he made mistakes and is atoning for it.

[Mr. Scot]

Hyperbole? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/columnist?id=1540370

Many more articles like this one address the risk of the first round QB bust.

If we need to research his character to make sure it is not problematic (I agree 100%), why are so many people calling for us to draft him now? Should they not be saying, "We need to investigate these character concerns, and look for tells in the comments he makes to the press"? That is my only point.

Similar article from 2007: Not just a passing fancy

[panthers55]

Agreed. A month ago he was not even a first rounder. Besides, this seems so contrary to what Hurney and the Panthers would do. I hope the hype continues, but only so we can trade down.

Yeah the same team that has 0 Superbowls, 0 franchise quarterbacks, and doesn't even have back to back winning seasons. Maybe there is a big need for a change in strategy.

[MHS831]

Literally anything that could possibly be taken as negative about Cam turns into a 10 page thread. Then Cam detractors come in like "SEE OMG WE SHOULD DRAFT BLAINE GABBERT. He's so committed to not being controversial that he isn't even going to throw at the combine, lest he accidentally cave some dude's face in with an errant throw. WHY WON'T CAM DO THE SAME?"

Is that what you read here? I did not see that anywhere. No Newton, No Gabbert. Not in the first round, anyway. I speak for myself.

Why are the Camorons not concerned about character issues? I assume they do not know him. The words from his mouth, I would assume, are the best indicators of his attitude. If he is not smart enough to refrain from saying something like that to a reporter...

[teeray]

Damage control and promotional propoganda over the last few months does not erase what he has done over the last several years. I never said he didn't have good qualities. Why would I read articles about CN on the field when he has never been on an NFL field and my concerns are off the field? I am saying that I have a strong background in sports and psychology. There are some perception problems at play here.

He could be great and we could all benefit. One of the articles I read discuss that first rounders pay off 60% of the time, but only 50% of the QBs do. When character concerns come up, the 50% drops. You admitted that there are character concerns because you explained how the Panthers will look into them. If so, then now is not the time to be promoting Cam Newton.

You know what I find amusing? The fact that the only people who have this type of vitriol and hate toward Cam Newton ONLY comes from people who have not been in contact with him.

The people who actually know him and talk about him often refer top him as a humble guy and a hard worker.

But after a bad choice of wording, everyone who doesn't know him somehow no he is selfish, cocky, or a bad teammate.

What is funny about that is it completely reverse of what the people who have either coached him or played with him have said about him.

But hey maybe you guys know better than the people who have actually played with him.

[MHS831]

Similar article from 2007: Not just a passing fancy

Thanks. I am out, Mr. Scott. Tried to be civil and rational, but nobody wants that here.

[Tarheels23]

Didn't Peter King recently have to apologize for misquoting someone?

[MHS831]

You know what I find amusing? The fact that the only people who have this type of vitriol and hate toward Cam Newton ONLY comes from people who have not been in contact with him.

The people who actually know him and talk about him often refer top him as a humble guy and a hard worker.

But after a bad choice of wording, everyone who doesn't know him somehow no he is selfish, cocky, or a bad teammate.

What is funny about that is it completely reverse of what the people who have either coached him or played with him have said about him.

But hey maybe you guys know better than the people who have actually played with him.

So in your world there is no need to check his character. We should go on hearsay and not his deeds or words. Got it.

[DaCityKats]

I've seen plenty of posts - and one thread - specifically aimed at questioning what kind of person someone was, and all because they were questioning Newton.

You want to question someone's logic, their reasoning, their facts, or even their intelligence? That's par for the course. Suggesting someone might be a bad person just because they don't like the same quarterback prospect you do is off-base.

Only because you and the non supporters keep bringing up the negatives off the field up, like you guys are saints.than some jump on the gabbert train but trash newton.at least you have been constant with not drafting a qb but your post newton have been nothing but bad.