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Brandt says we should take Newton


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What's the big deal? The NFL is entertainment. I guarantee you Peyton Manning sees himself the same way, and so do all the companies that ask him to endorse their products..

I can see where a comment like the one Newton made can easily be taken out of context.

Many NFL players think of themselves as entertainers to some extent... JR said it's the Panthers job to entertain the fans with the product on the field.

As far as the "icon" comment goes, a starting NFL QB is an icon to some extent, so the kid is saying he's ready for the spotlight.

I can see how these comments would give you pause, but I can also see how they could easily be taken out of context.

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I can see where a comment like the one Newton made can easily be taken out of context.

Many NFL players think of themselves as entertainers to some extent... JR said it's the Panthers job to entertain the fans with the product on the field.

As far as the "icon" comment goes, a starting NFL QB is an icon to some extent, so the kid is saying he's ready for the spotlight.

I can see how these comments would give you pause, but I can also see how they could easily be taken out of context.

for all the pause I have had on the kid, this comment to me is the media being typical morons. The kid said nothing wrong, he is RIGHT. This is an entertainment industry period.

Look modern football = Ancient Gladiators that is it in a nut shell. We go to the coliseum ..errr... Stadium to watch gladiators kill each other...errr.... football players try to beat the hell outta each other, for entertainment.

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for all the pause I have had on the kid, this comment to me is the media being typical morons. The kid said nothing wrong, he is RIGHT. This is an entertainment industry period.

Look modern football = Ancient Gladiators that is it in a nut shell. We go to the coliseum ..errr... Stadium to watch gladiators kill each other...errr.... football players try to beat the hell outta each other, for entertainment.

Agreed, the kid is saying "I'm ready for primetime" and I like that... QB needs to have swagger.

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Agreed, the kid is saying "I'm ready for primetime" and I like that... QB needs to have swagger.

My only problems with the kid are I have been to Gus Malzahn seminars and coaching clinics. It is widely known his offense sucks for getting guys ready for the NFL. Cam relies too much on natural talent which won't cut it in the NFL.

EVERYONE runs a 4.3 and hits hard here and none are stupid. (well on the field anyway). Will his talent help him, sure, but this will always be a league where the QB must Lead the team, Read the defense and deliver the ball on target, with anticipation and on time to the receivers first and foremost. Running is always secondary.

Its his mental take on the game and how well he will adapt to reading defenses, taking drops and getting rid of the ball as soon as that back foot hits on a 3,5,7 step drop. How he can look off all pros like Rogers did Shampoo boy in the superbowl, essentially taking him out of the game.

The kid can sling a football a country mile, fine many others have done it, I want to know how good this kid is going to be mentally, that aspect will ALWAYS matter more than his physical skills. But hey, if the godfather thinks the kid can do it, so be it I am willing to give the kid a shot.

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Per PFT

Sure you guys have heard this, what's your take? I think Cam hit it on the head & was being honest. Nothing wrong with it IMO.

Worked well for Magic Johnson who always considered himself an entertainer and an icon.

I have never seen a kid have every movement and every word parsed to try to find negatives. If Andrew Luck says the same thing (this is not an intended racial statement) they would say, "Wow. This kid really gets it!!"

He has become so polarizing that every statement is dissected to the point that any little misstep can be blown up to prove he is a jerk or a great guy.

It is like a presidential campaign. Every little sentence you have to think, "what does this mean?"

To me it means he has a desire to become an icon. Something that Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, among others have also strived to achieve.

To someone else it means that he is cocky and not a good teammate.

It is crazy.

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more stuff that brandt has said about him...

Longtime NFL personnel man Gil Brandt, now working as a draft consultant, called Newton "the most exciting player I can ever remember watching" and said the 6-foot-6, 250-pound quarterback has displayed all the physical skills necessary to be an NFL star.

"I am not an advocate of guys coming out of school early," Brandt said in a recent telephone interview. "But I think that if he does come out of school, I don't think there's any question he'll be selected in the first half of the first round (of the draft) unless there is something physically wrong with him."

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Still, NFL quarterbacks can't make a living running the ball. In the second half of the season, as Auburn's opponents became more intent on stopping Newton in the running game, he passed more.

The results were encouraging. The junior has completed 67 percent of his passes for 2,589 yards and 28 touchdowns with only six interceptions.

"He has excellent accuracy," Brandt said. "I'm amazed at his accuracy whether it be 10 yards down field or 20 yards down field or more. He's got arm strength.

"There is no question he is physically ready."

Brandt said the only thing Newton doesn't have he can only get by staying in school for another season: experience.

After Newton and Auburn play Oregon in the BCS championship in Glendale, Ariz., on Jan. 10, he will have started a total of 14 college games.

"When I guy gets to around 30 games in college, that usually is when the light turns on," Brandt said.

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Newton, of course, has said he'll think about the NFL after the BCS championship game.

The NFL, though, is already thinking about him.

"The sky's the limit for that kid," Brandt said.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40631135/ns/sports-college_football/

from a chat done on NFL.com on Oct. 26, 2010...

Q: Do you think that Cam Newton could play in the nfl?

Brandt: As for Cam Newton, I think the Auburn QB might be the most exciting football player I've seen on the college level -- EVER. Thanks to his running and passing ability, I'd say Auburn has a very good shot at the national championship despite having to end the regular season at Alabama.

Before the season, by the way, I did predict that Auburn would be 11-0 going into the Alabama game. And that's not just because my son goes to Auburn!

And as for the NFL... if I ahd my choice of drafting The Golden Calf of Bristol or CamNewton, I'd select Cam Newton.

http://chat.nfl.com/front/index/1184

brandt is one of the few draftniks i have never had an issue with. he's always been pretty spot on, and i'm not just saying this because he feels the same way about newton that i do. the guy knows his stuff.

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Greatness is hard to find in any athlete and harder to measure and translate to success at a QB pro level.

Some players in the NFL have the same stats and do the same things; but, they will never obtain greatness.

To me, if you want ordinary, that's Blaine Gabbert. He will be the next Kyle Orton or the next Eli Manning (maybe). It you want someone with potential for greatness, that is Newton, and yes, it is a coin toss; but, potential for greatness is not something to be bypassed.

Newton has some god-given physical skills that could make him great, if he has his head about him, and wants to be.

To me, if the potential for greatness is there, and the Panthers feel it can be harnessed, they would be foolish to pass on him.

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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81e69ae9/Which-top-10-teams-need-a-QB?module=HP_video

not that I agree, but I was always a Vick fan, and for as long as I can remember I have always thought we needed a mobile qb, weather it was Collins, Weinke, Peete, Delhomme, Testaverde, or Delhomme, we have never had a mobile qb that can make and extend a play

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Brandt in 2007...

If you asked me who has the most upside, I would say Russell. If the question is who is going to be best the next three years, I'd say it's [brady] Quinn.

Wrong on both counts :(

Other quotes from that year (link)

Jon Gruden

The workout Russell had was Star Wars. It was unbelievable.

Mel Kiper Jr

JaMarcus Russell is going to immediately energize that fanbase, that football team -- on the practice field, in that locker room. Three years from now you could be looking at a guy that's certainly one of the elite top five quarterbacks in this league. ...You're talking about a 2-3 year period once he's under center. Look out because the skill level that he has is certainly John Elway-like.

Todd McShay

I can't remember being in such awe of a quarterback in my decade of attending combines and pro days. Russell's passing session was the most impressive of all the pro days I've been to. His footwork for such a big quarterback was surprising. He was nimble in his dropbacks, rolling out and throwing on the run. The ball just explodes out of his hands.

Terry Bradshaw

JaMarcus Russell, my man. The Raiders finally get their big arm. And he's a good kid, strong kid, smart kid. He'll be a big-time player. If I'm the Raiders, that's who I pick. That's pretty easy.

And a guy who actually was a lot closer to being right than some of his more esteemed colleagues...

He has a cannon for an arm, can make all the throws and has great size. Heck, he looks like a tackle playing quarterback. I just don't see the pinpoint passing, the great timing of the throws or his feel for the pocket. He's careless with the ball, at times, and he struggled against the better college defenses. Can he develop into a quality NFL quarterback? You bet. Would I take him with the first overall pick? No way. As of now, I have him rated at the 20th-best player.

That one was from Pete Prisco :sosp:

Similarly, if you research the Manning-Leaf debate, you'll find there were a fair number of professional scouts who thought Leaf would be the better pro. Some even publicly chided the Colts for taking manning at #1 instead of Leaf.

Yes, scouts know more than we do about the business, but they're far from perfect.

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