"If it were up to me to fix the QB spot, I would..."

[CRA]

My problem with this is If you draft Cam i feel Jimmy should be gone. I don't like a QB rotation of Cam, Jimmy and Moore because you still have too depend on Moore and Jimmy being good and both still don't have great game exp.

Plus with Cam their is your face of the franchise their is no need too keep 2 young QB's. I rather a Mark Bluger and Matt Moore with Cam and maybe trading Jimmy for a 3rd or 4th round pick.

Jimmy is a mid 2nd rounder.......I don't think any team would feel they couldn't bring in a better young QB and keep Clausen on the bench. Clausen was just a kid who nobody wanted and we thought we might have had a gem fall to us....doesn't look to be the case. 2nd rouders aren't treated like high 1st rounders.

I think a real vet needs to be here regardless next year. Moore isn't that.

[The Saltman]

either we release him or trade him for a 7th rounder.

it aint happening

[koolkatluke]

either we release him or trade him for a 7th rounder.

it aint happening

3rd may be too high but a 4th or a 5th for Jimmy is not a crazy asking price. IMO

[The Saltman]

asking price no. Getting price? a 4th is hilarious.

[koolkatluke]

asking price no. Getting price? a 4th is hilarious.

I think a few teams will jump at the chance too give up a 4th and maybe get a Young 22 year old QB with 1st round talent. Nobody other then some panther fans think his situation here was good. Alot Gm will look at Fox being a Lame duck coach Davidson being the worst OC all the injuries and JR not spending money and say we can put a better situation around him and he will be better. A 4th round pick is not that big of a risk for the reward you might get.

[CRA]

I think a few teams will jump at the chance too give up a 4th and maybe get a Young 22 year old QB with 1st round talent. Nobody other then some panther fans think his situation here was good. Alot Gm will look at Fox being a Lame duck coach Davidson being the worst OC all the injuries and JR not spending money and say we can put a better situation around him and he will be better. A 4th round pick is not that big of a risk for the reward you might get.

How does Jimmy have 1st round talent? Even if you believe he was in a horrible scenario that he couldn't win in last year......he is pretty average physically across the board. 1st round talent normally has some pretty special physical talent that stands out.

[koolkatluke]

How does Jimmy have 1st round talent? Even if you believe he was in a horrible scenario that he couldn't win in last year......he is pretty average physically across the board. 1st round talent normally has some pretty special physical talent that stands out.

Say whatever you think CRA. He was rated by every scouting service and other people who actually get paid for their opinion (not you) too have 1st round talent. He may not be as physically gifted as Cam or other but people who knows talent feel he had all the physical you need too be a QB in the NFL.

[CRA]

Say whatever you think CRA. He was rated by every scouting service and other people who actually get paid for their opinion (not you) too have 1st round talent. He may not be as physically gifted as Cam or other but people who knows talent feel he had all the physical you need too be a QB in the NFL.

um, again, the people who actually get paid by NFL teams to scout......didn't think he was a first round talent. That is why he was a mid 2nd rounder in the draft. So you are arguing the guys teams pay are wrong but the Mel Kiper's of the world were right basically.

you claimed he was a first round talent......he was not picked in the first round and played like an undrafted rookie. I think it is time to move past this "first round" talent nonsense.

[koolkatluke]

um, again, the people who actually get paid by NFL teams to scout......didn't think he was a first round talent. That is why he was a mid 2nd rounder in the draft. So you are arguing the guys teams pay are wrong but the Mel Kiper's of the world were right basically.

you claimed he was a first round talent......he was not picked in the first round and played like an undrafted rookie. I think it is time to move past this "first round" talent nonsense.

CRA you can sit their and play stupid all you want but the only reason he drop was question on his charcter and leadership not his physical skills.

Also Drew Brees was a 2nd round QB but he doesn't have 1st round talent because he wasn't picked in the 1st round. That was a dumbass statement dude please edit that fast.

[TheRealDeal]

Draft AJ Green

Sign Moore

Sign Volek

Cut Pike

Keep Smith.

Sign D Will

Draft DT in 3rd (if we can, second)

Sign FA DT

Draft linemen only from here on out

QB instantly looks better

[MaineManPanther]

um, again, the people who actually get paid by NFL teams to scout......didn't think he was a first round talent. That is why he was a mid 2nd rounder in the draft. So you are arguing the guys teams pay are wrong but the Mel Kiper's of the world were right basically.

you claimed he was a first round talent......he was not picked in the first round and played like an undrafted rookie. I think it is time to move past this "first round" talent nonsense.

Not being picked in the first round doesn't mean he didn't have first round talent, it simply could mean that teams didn't need him or felt the risks were to high. However risks do not equate to lack of talent.

Your also putting too much stock in phyical attibutes. While he possess average height and hands, those attributes are not significant enough that they would take away from other redeming qualities that gave him a high opinion.

[Snake]

#1 Sign CJ and Dwill.

#2 Draft Newton.

#3 Let Newton and Clausen battle it out.

#4 Let a Vet be a teacher.

#5 Heavy Run game and Pray.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

I wouldn't take a mid-late round project. We already have two projects at QB, I don't see much upside in adding another. But from what they've shown thus far I wouldn't sit idly by and pray that one of them eventually works out.

I would look to take an elite franchise level talent, either at #1 overall this year or with our (most likely top 10) 1st rounder in 2012. Everything would be looked at with the long term in mind. I'd rather win a super bowl in 5 years than one extra game in a mediocre 2011 season.

Cam Newton is the only guy I would consider taking this year and he's a HUGE risk. Taking him or not wouldn't be so much how I compared his value to the other QBs in this draft (or even other elite talents, Green, PP7) but rather how he looks compared to the QB class in 2012. Scout and evaluate him from every possible angle and then do the same with the top guys expected to be there next year (Luck, Barkley, Jones).

If I'm not sold on Newton and/or the top 3 prospects for 2012 all look better then that would push me to hold off for a year, as you're almost certainly going to be able to get one of them. If only one or two guys in 2012 look like the real deal then that gets a bit risky waiting as it's very possible you'd miss out on who you wanted. If Cam blows you away you know for sure you can get him so that pushes you to go QB this year.

Overall you just have to weigh all that after doing an insane amount of scouting and research. This is the type of decision that defines your franchise, every possible resource should be poured into making the right one. Honestly, can't say right this second what I'd do but at least that's how I'd approach it.

I'd add a vet this offseason to be a backup, or possible starter if I decided to wait till 2012 to draft a franchise QB. I'm in favor of starting that top draft pick right away so the vet's mentoring and leadership would be more important than his actual talent level. I don't want a career backup, I'd look to get someone that's been a starter, played at a high level, had a good amount of success. I don't care how far he's fallen off since then, it's the experience that he brings that's important. Hasselbeck or Marc Bulger would fit pretty well.

[chknwing]

Trade down picking up another teams 1st next year, and hope they suck. Trade Steve Smith for a first round pick next year, So we potentially have 3 first rounders and if need be, can trade back up to get luck. By taking AJ Green this year. We dont need smith. Any team would be insane not to trade the #1 spot for 3 1st round picks.