The "draft and groom future QB, sign a vet to start for 2 yrs" plan

[frash.exe]

when was the last time it worked for a team that was in our current situation?

seriously think of an example of a team that had a horrible QB situation with a new head coach rebuild quickly by signing a vet at the same time as drafting a QB (in any round), sat that QB for two years while they made the playoffs with the vet they signed, and then enjoyed consistent success when their rookie QB was "groomed" enough to play up to an acceptable standard.

[firstdayfan]

I'm a little lost? Are you for or against drafting a QB???

[Happy Panther]

when was the last time it worked for a team that was in our current situation?

seriously think of an example of a team that had a horrible QB situation with a new head coach rebuild quickly by signing a vet at the same time as drafting a QB (in any round), sat that QB for two years while they made the playoffs with the vet they signed, and then enjoyed consistent success when their rookie QB was "groomed" enough to play up to an acceptable standard.

Does the rookies initials have to be CM and the draft happens on the 28th?

Your exact scenario doesn't happen often because the exact scenario we are in doesn't happen often.

Plenty of QBs have done well after sitting under a veteran.

[Happy Panther]

Anyway Philip Rivers probably qualifies

[KillerKat]

no

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Miami made the playoffs following 1-15 with Pennington.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Their "QB of the future" didn't exactly work out but then again every QB from that draft was basically useless crap.

[KillerKat]

then he sucked then henne was good but now...

[Jangler]

San Francisco Bil Walsh and Joe Montana

[KillerKat]

Ok, the only situation I can find is the 1999 Vikings when they brought in Jeff George and drafted Dante Culpepper when they went 10-6 with George starting then 11-5 the next year with Culpepper starting. However, that was the only good year they had with a winning record while Culpepper was the QB even though he himself played relatively good there. Maybe if he had a better team around him, they would've had more success. According to his numbers though he had a bad next 2 years after his first year starting and then a good next 2 years and then fell off the face of the earth after Gamble ended him.

[frash.exe]

Anyway Philip Rivers probably qualifies

listen i don't want to be the asshole that says "no he doesn't" but no he doesn't

drew brees wasn't a vet and the Chargers drafted him relatively early, and no he wasn't that great before they drafted Rivers but he was world's better than what we have

and oh it's not that hard to find teams that were in our situation. the 2007 atlanta falcons were working with Joey Harrington

[frash.exe]

San Francisco Bil Walsh and Joe Montana

3 problems

Steve DeBerg had about as much on field pro experience by the time Walsh came in as Jimmy Clausen, he debuted in SF, like Jimmy Clausen debuted here, and Bill's 49ers were poo the two years before Montana truly took the reigns in 81.

[frash.exe]

Ok, the only situation I can find is the 1999 Vikings when they brought in Jeff George and drafted Dante Culpepper when they went 10-6 with George starting then 11-5 the next year with Culpepper starting. However, that was the only good year they had with a winning record while Culpepper was the QB even though he himself played relatively good there. Maybe if he had a better team around him, they would've had more success. According to his numbers though he had a bad next 2 years after his first year starting and then a good next 2 years and then fell off the face of the earth after Gamble ended him.

so then if we have to go back more than ten years just to find an example that meets it most of the way, why are people acting like this plan is so chic and bulletproof like everybody's been doing it to rebuild a franchise with no QB since the dawn of the NFL? Like there's such overwhelming evidence that has proven this is the way to go if you're trying to win immediately and in the future...

[KillerKat]

Because Aaron Rodgers learned so much from Brett Farvess!!1 (even though Favre made it public he was babying no one)