Yasinskas: Is Newton's Past An Issue For Panthers?

[LiQuiD]

Claussen?

Most grocery stores will allow a return or exchange if you're not satisfied with the quality of the product. Just take the jar you're not satisfied with back to the store and let a manager know your concerns.

[MHS831]

Are you going to give up on Newton if he struggles (as almost all rookie QBs do) the way you did Claussen? Then what?

Good point.

Reverse things: FWIW, if you put Newton under center with 2 rookie WRs, 3 reserve linemen blocking (2 7th rounders and an undrafted free agent), he would SUCK!! And if JC were coming out this season, he would be the TOP-RANKED QB in the draft and you all would be screaming for him.

Truth.

[MHS831]

Plz don't draft a QB Carolina, we are just loaded at that position. We just can not possibly use anymore help there.

Please do the right thing for the long term success of the franchise, Carolina, and don't get sucked into the hype of a 1-year wonder, simple offense running, QB with more question marks than character points.

Please make sure you watch game film and not highlight reels to make your decision.

Please make sure that we don't give $55 million over 4 years to a player that we need to groom for 2 years to prepare for the NFL, only to have him go to the highest bidder in free agency in an attempt to get to a bigger market to appease his father.

or the "Pro Cam" perspective:

Please understand that $55 million will make him no longer have to attend college so there will be no need to cheat, that millions of dollars will make him ethical because rich people don't have stolen laptops, and please understand that Cam can finally pay his father the $180K he so much deserves for being such a great role model.

Please understand that controversy is free publicity, and Cam seems to have it wherever he goes. Please convert investigative reports on ESPN and other major networks and equate the air time to advertising costs. Cam will keep the Panthers logo and face on the news constantly!

[raleigh-panther]

I don't think it's a matter of giving up on Clausen.

It's understanding that some players have more physical gifts than others and more ability to slide and move in the pocket; bigger stature to see over the line and thus the passing lanes, a bigger arm to make tight throws. I'll take a QB in the modern league who can win with both his legs or arms over one who can just stand as a statue.

..and I am someone who liked Clausen in college...watched all the ND games, was excited to have him here. Again, I am greatly bothered that when all the stars aligned, and he had the opportunity to complete a pass, he didn't. He could not physically make the throw. That is a real concern to me as either he does not have the physical ability or the mechanics, or the confidence at the NFL level.

...as Steve Smith said, 'this isn't ND anymore'.

We do have a true QB coach now and I'm sure he and Rivera and Hurney have watch the film and I'll guarantee you the decision has been made as the tape does not lie.

I would honestly feel a lot better if Hurney were not involved...of course, he could trade the number 1 pick for the VA Tech QB as he might make a good slot receiver and we need one.

[jtm]

Are you going to give up on Newton if he struggles (as almost all rookie QBs do) the way you did Claussen? Then what?

Yes - according to the majority on this board if you are not successful your first year in the NFL as a starter you are a failure. All the statistics and experts state otherwise, but they don't know anything and get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars because they don't know what they are talking about. However, most on this board that have probably never played a down in football know how to pick talent and evaluate after watching tape on you tube. :rolleyes:

[monstercat]

Clausen was never going to keep the Panthers from drafting Luck, so why should he keep us from drafting Newton? If he can't handle the competition, then he's not the right guy anyway. There is no law that says we can't still root for Clausen, regardless of what the Panthers do either, so for me anyway, hate has nothing to do with it.

[rayzor]

Wow...did he really get paid to write that?

that could be said about 90% of the stuff he writes.

[rayzor]

I hope that they are doing their due diligence and turning up every stone. Before we decide whether we want to draft him, we need to know everything we can.

agreed, but they also need to really consider if the stuff that happened in florida is consistent through the rest of his life. if all of his trouble is confined to those couple years in gainesville, then they need to consider that his mistakes were confined to a small part of his life and not emblematic of the whole and it was the result of a young kid on his own for the first time making mistakes that he moved on from.

[mav1234]

Clausen was never going to keep the Panthers from drafting Luck, so why should he keep us from drafting Newton? If he can't handle the competition, then he's not the right guy anyway. There is no law that says we can't still root for Clausen, regardless of what the Panthers do either, so for me anyway, hate has nothing to do with it.

It's very possible they think Clausen has a better chance in this league than Newton (but imo kinda unlikely at this point). There is also a chance they think he would be less of an upgrade than getting one of the other top talents would be (possible). Finally, Luck was just a different sort of prospect than anyone else in this draft... or so everyone was saying.

[Lumps]

Just say no.

how about fug no.

I would love him mid-late first and a second to go with him though.

As far as character I really don't care, I did much stupider poo. People grow up, they mature and eventually given they didn't do something sadistic you get over it. What Newton did tells me about his age and mindset but not really character.

[rippadonn]

how about fug no.

I would love him mid-late first and a second to go with him though.

As far as character I really don't care, I did much stupider poo. People grow up, they mature and eventually given they didn't do something sadistic you get over it. What Newton did tells me about his age and mindset but not really character.

Nobody has faced more scrutiny than Newton. If you gave the same amount of scrutiny to some of the other front runners you'll likely find more.

Newton will be top five not middle or late first, not happening. The kid is #1 on at least 6 teams boards.

[SmootsDaddy89]

Are you going to give up on Newton if he struggles (as almost all rookie QBs do) the way you did Claussen? Then what?

If Newton throws 3 touchdown passes in 10 games, yeah.

[koolkatluke]

It's very possible they think Clausen has a better chance in this league than Newton (but imo kinda unlikely at this point). There is also a chance they think he would be less of an upgrade than getting one of the other top talents would be (possible). Finally, Luck was just a different sort of prospect than anyone else in this draft... or so everyone was saying.

I agree with this Luck and Cam are not the same prospect.

[KillerKat]

Totally love Huddle logic. "So what if our current QB sucks, what if in the process of trying to upgrade that position our next guy is still bad!?". Then you keep trying till you find your guy moron.