Clausen poised for improvement?

[teeray]

Dirty tab isn't the same as a pay for play, or felony allegations. You're comparing apples to golf balls.

One year of production doesn't bother me since both are juniors.

Cam has to learn to be a NFL QB, starting with the basics of reading cvg, staying in the pocket, making more than just one read and has to be the face of the franchise.

Fairley will have to improve technique and hone his skills, he doesn't have to damn near relearn his position.

Friendship with Russell means nothing to me, Hell he could view him as a cautionary tale.

As for impact, a former DC turned HC who wants a strong front four that aggressive will have plenty of impact.

Nearly all this one read stuff has been debunked. Most of his football questions have been overblown or incorrect and his stock has increased with film work in most analyst's eyes. His only obstacle left is his character questions.

He will be fine.

[teeray]

We don't have any decent DT's, that's the problem. We have no one worthy of starting in the NFL on the roster.

This is a strong DT class, but an incredibly weak QB class.

DT has a higher bust rate than QB early in the first round. Only one DT selected in the top 5 has made a pro bowl in like nearly 20 years.

[monstercat]

I've got a question. How many DT's have been drafted in the top five in the last 10 years, and how many of them were still starting 5 years later? I'm pretty sure there have been just as many "can't miss" DT's who ended up being busts, as there have been QB's, yet people keep saying that is the safe pick.

Edit...sorry folks, I should have read through the thread first, since this was already brought up.

[Jackofalltrades]

Nearly all this one read stuff has been debunked. Most of his football questions have been overblown or incorrect and his stock has increased with film work in most analyst's eyes. His only obstacle left is his character questions.

He will be fine.

When Mayock stops bringing up the one read stuff so will I, but it's universally known that was the system he was in, such is true with most run option offenses.

I don't think you're correct in your bust comparisons, I'll have to look into it before o go much farther in that regard.

However, Newton is your classic boom or bust prospect and I just don't see the boom. IMO, Fairley, Green, Peterson are all safer picks- something I want with the first pick overall.

[TheRealDeal]

ANYONE can bust. From Fairley, to Green, to Bowers, to even the great Luck. Any of these guys can bust.

As a matter of fact first round QB's fair better in regards to boom or busts than most positions.

Just because you take a QB in the first round does not mean he is a first round QB.

Those QBs in the past largely deserved to be first rounders. If every team reached for QBs when they didn't deserve it, the bust rate would be higher.

All that says to me that if you pick a QB in the first round, you better be damn sure and if not, then move along.

[Punisher]

Good article. While I don't necessarily think he'll turn out as good as Freeman, Freeman looked as bad his rookie year as clausen did last year

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[rayzor]

I'll take Newton over most of Rayzor's list, but he's still a huge risk, and I'd take Volek over any of them. Even if we do take Newton, do you really want him starting as a rookie with no one behind him? We still need someone like Volek either way.

If we get an average QB, we won't be drafting Luck next year. We'll be taking someone around #14.

so why would we need/want some guy that has only played 10 games in his career and who hasn't had a meaningful game in 5 years or w in in 6 and who ran away from a team because he was asked to compete for a starting job?

doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[TheRealDeal]

so why would we need/want some guy that has only played 10 games in his career and who hasn't had a meaningful game in 5 years or w in in 6 and who ran away from a team because he was asked to compete for a starting job?

doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Didn't Cam run away from Florida because he was asked to compete?

Or was it because he was getting kicked out?

:toetap05:

[rayzor]

When Mayock stops bringing up the one read stuff so will I, but it's universally known that was the system he was in, such is true with most run option offenses.

I don't think you're correct in your bust comparisons, I'll have to look into it before o go much farther in that regard.

However, Newton is your classic boom or bust prospect and I just don't see the boom. IMO, Fairley, Green, Peterson are all safer picks- something I want with the first pick overall.

it was one read after the snap. doens't mean it was one read prior to the snap. good few QB have known who they are going to throw it to or at least have a pretty good idea who they are going to throw it to before the snap based on who was covering them and what the defense was doing. no reason to think that wasn't what the former pure pocket passer was doing.

[TheRealDeal]

it was one read after the snap. doens't mean it was one read prior to the snap. good few QB have known who they are going to throw it to or at least have a pretty good idea who they are going to throw it to before the snap based on who was covering them and what the defense was doing. no reason to think that wasn't what the former pure pocket passer was doing.

His QB coach already admitted that he can't read a defense pre snap.

Nice try though

[Punisher]

I love the Jimmy will get better argument. How can he get worse? Start throwing the ball backwards!

[rayzor]

Didn't Cam run away from Florida because he was asked to compete?

Or was it because he was getting kicked out?

:toetap05:

a little of both, maybe, but i'm not going to fault a college QB for wanting to go somewhere where he actually had a shot for the job, esp. when you are talking about such a small window. volek ran and he didn't care where it was. he went to a situation where he wasn't given the choice to compete.

newton is by far more compeitive than volek. no comparison there.

also, i can't blame a guy for wanting to get out of a situation where he made a ton of mistakes. best thing for anyone to do when they want to make a change is get out of the bad situation they were in. try to get a fresh start. thats what he did. and he went somewhere twice where he could compete for the starting job and he got it. gonna fault the guy for wanting to put himself in the best situation to compete and get some recognition?

[Clicheking]

The article doesn't suggest improvement as much as it does he can't get any worse

[TheRealDeal]

a little of both, maybe, but i'm not going to fault a college QB for wanting to go somewhere where he actually had a shot for the job, esp. when you are talking about such a small window. volek ran and he didn't care where it was. he went to a situation where he wasn't given the choice to compete.

newton is by far more compeitive than volek. no comparison there.

also, i can't blame a guy for wanting to get out of a situation where he made a ton of mistakes. best thing for anyone to do when they want to make a change is get out of the bad situation they were in. try to get a fresh start. thats what he did. and he went somewhere twice where he could compete for the starting job and he got it. gonna fault the guy for wanting to put himself in the best situation to compete and get some recognition?

Nope but you can't fault one guy for running away and not fault the other, no matter what the reasons, that's all.

Did Cam really have to compete at Blinn or Auburn?