Latest Mock Mel Kiper Has Cam going 3 to buffalo

[JawnyBlaze]

Kiper and the Bills are probably the last people in their respective fields I would listen to when it comes to drafting...

Its not about the bills...its about draft positioning...if a guy is good enuff to go three, he's good enuff to go one...

[mav1234]

Here we go again. The only QB to be taken in the first round that played in a true pro style offense to become successful was Matt Ryan.

the only QB, really? maybe in his draft class...

edit: nobody is saying that you have to play in a "super duper true prostyle offense", but come on. Plenty of first rounders have played in more pro style offenses than Auburns :P

[Boltergeist]

This time of year, I wouldn't believe the "horse's mouth" if it was strapped to a polygraph.

Shanahan can arrange that for you.

[mav1234]

Didn't the all knowing Mike Mayock have Jimmy rated about the same as Kiper?

mcshay is the only one who had him with a second round grade out of those 3 that I recall anyway, and McShay still thought someone would reach for him in the first.

[TheRealDeal]

A Rod comes to mind. He played a lot under center.

Anyway, I'm sure others have mentioned that there are varying degrees of "Pro style" and "Spread" offenses and they all fall somewhere on this giant spectrum.

Basically the only thing further away from a pro offense than the offense Auburn ran this year is the triple option. Every other offense is more "pro style" than Auburn's was and it isn't even close.

[micnificent28]

mock =/= real thing

fwiw, Mel had Jimmy going in the top ten, and to the bills at that.

using a mock as a bragging right is pretty weak bro.

No one is perfect...Even with the jimmy deal mel is about as good as it gets when trying to judge draft stock. No one gets it right all the time and he has connections you don't. I'll take his word over urs 9 times out of 10

[Jackofalltrades]

No one is perfect...Even with the jimmy deal mel is about as good as it gets when trying to judge draft stock. No one gets it right all the time and he has connections you don't. I'll take his word over urs 9 times out of 10

He's a sham who takes his orders from agents trying to inflate their prospects stock. He's not respected by scouts like Mayock is.

[JawnyBlaze]

Mel is about as bad as it gets when trying to judge prospect talent

No one is perfect...Even with the jimmy deal mel is about as good as it gets when trying to judge draft stock. No one gets it right all the time and he has connections you don't. I'll take his word over urs 9 times out of 10

[Phil Dees]

Kiper predicted 10 correct spots in the 1st round of the 2010 draft. McShay had 11 right, and Maycock 7. Of the better advertised projections Rick Gosselin of Dallas Morning News has generally stood out over the last 5 years as the most accurate. Even then, he only got 8 correct in 2010. Anyone believing so much in mocks probably still believes in Santa Claus too.

[monstercat]

I mean seriously, does anybody really expect any of these draft gurus to get it 100% right? That is never going to happen in any of our lifetimes, regardless of how many contacts they have or how much research they do.

Also, there is no way that Kiper is going to predict that any QB will be drafted by the Panthers. Not after he bet his reputation that JC would be the man. That was a mistake, but he's about as good as anybody else at ranking players.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Make it known we are going to take Newton, hands down Newton is our pick. Hint that we will listen to trade offers. Give us Fitzpatrick and #3 and we will make the swap. I would take Fitzpatrick in a freaking heartbeat.

Gotta give the the Poka face.