Owners come to defense of Panthers' Richardson

[Cyberjag]

Way to fish.

He tanked it not because he didn't want to win, but because he needed to clear the high dollar contracts out of the way, before negotiating a CBA. What credibility would he have if he was one of the owners spending millions during an uncapped season. FYI, the teams that spent the most, where the ones in the playoffs.

I'm not cool with that as a fan. Players aren't cool with that based on their 3.5 year NFL life expectancy and the coaches weren't cool with it because they were burned at the stake.

Honestly? I think he gambled on Moore and lost, big-time. Yes, he took advantage of the lack of salary cap to dump vets, but I don't think he ever dreamed of 2 win season. We'll never know, of course.

Remember last March, we all thought the defense would be the weak link...

And I'm not really fishing, it was just a thought. I don't mean to derail the discussion.

[Dpantherman]

:lurk5:.....:cryin:

[riddel]

You severely underestimate/misrepresent Mr. Richardson's business abilities. You make it sound like he merely road Charlie Bradshaw and Hugh McColl's coattails, which is very, very far from the truth.

Also, he did not "put himself out there as the representative" ... he was elected/appointed by the owners to represent them all.

No I did not. I said Richardson had help, which he did.

Richardson put himself out there in March 2010, when he delivered the firey speech that united the owners. It only takes a 30% margin for a representative to be elected. I'm sure several owners wish they could take that representation back now, but that would really hurt the NFL's negotiation power.

[Cyberjag]

I've said it before but if he doesn't think his team can compete for a Superbowl, in any given year, he should do what it takes to field that team or he has cheated us the fans. short term/long term it doesn't matter.

I agree with that in concept, but can you really build a super-bowl team in a single season? He tried that route under Capers/Polian, and Free Agency and control issues took the team down.

I think that his biggest mistake this time around was when he let Fox work out the last two seasons of his contract. He should have either given him an extension and eaten the last couple of years if he fired him, or he should have fired him and gotten someone after 2008. I say 2008 because it seems from news reports that 2008 is when the coach's contracts crap started (we had a bit of an assistant exodus).

But at any rate, he probably decided that he needed a change, and he made a drastic one as far as personnel is concerned. He really should have coupled that with a coaching change.

[mav1234]

Honestly? I think he gambled on Moore and lost, big-time. Yes, he took advantage of the lack of salary cap to dump vets, but I don't think he ever dreamed of 2 win season. We'll never know, of course.

Remember last March, we all thought the defense would be the weak link...

And I'm not really fishing, it was just a thought. I don't mean to derail the discussion.

I agree with this. If you look at the people that really were instrumental in Moore's 4-1 finish to the previous year, it would make sense you'd think that the Panthers would be just fine on offense heading into the year, but worried a bit about defense but still optimistic things could turn out okay on that end too because of the history our coach has with defenses.

[Panthro]

We agree on that (well holy poo). A coaching change last year along with the veteran purge would have allowed us to at least get these youngsters on board with the new playbooks, schemes, etc.

For us as Panther's fans we need a training camp and no lockout or next year will be just as bad if we cant talk to these kids until September.

[riddel]

Honestly? I think he gambled on Moore and lost, big-time. Yes, he took advantage of the lack of salary cap to dump vets, but I don't think he ever dreamed of 2 win season. We'll never know, of course.

Remember last March, we all thought the defense would be the weak link...

And I'm not really fishing, it was just a thought. I don't mean to derail the discussion.

Yeah. Well. The defense was weak. The stats due not show how weak they were, but the fact is they were on the field alot and the stats look better than they should. The team was nothing more than a scab and all phases were affected. The last few games we IRed players siimply to get them off the field. What was that about? Sealing the deal?

[Carolina Husker]

His objective is winning LONG TERM. In creating a successful LONG TERM franchise.

Fans get too wrapped up with the SHORT TERM.

Did he take a gamble on the 2010 season that ended in disaster? Yes.

But, sometimes you take your lumps now to build something sustainable for the future.

Incorrect. His first objective is making as much money in the short term as possible. And that's not to say that's a bad thing, but don't think for a second his desire to win in the long term trumps his desire to squeeze every ounce of blood possible from this stone before anything else takes place.

Anyone who thinks what he did in 2010 was to help the long term success of the Carolina Panthers is horribly, horribly mistaken. And anyone who believes that a lockout in 2011 is in the best long term interests of not only this team but the league as a whole needs a firehose to get the Kool-Aid stains off their tongue.

[SPANKY]

The owner's have to hold the line now, it's no suprise they would stand up for Jerry. I can't say much about the him talking down to Manning, it's not a big deal if he did. But the press conf. I did see was painful, he just did'nt seem himself. And after the season the Panthers had last year, we could use some good news for a change. I'am sure Jerry is in that position for a reason, I just hope his health will hold up through all this. If and when this CBA matter is done, he need's to get the Panthers back in playoff form.

[Panthercougar68]

I'm not saying JR is infallible but I'm gonna defend him when the media and other nfl fans try to paint him as the sole reason that nothing is being solved CBA wise. The fault is on both sides but with this everyone not a Panthers fans is blaming JR 100%. If I see another bengal or redskins fan call him the worst owner in the leauge one more time I'm gonna flip.

[SPANKY]

Jerry isn't the reason a deal can't be reached yet, that's for sure. That's funny, fan's of the bungels and skins talkin about our owner, when was the last time they made some noise in the playoff's?

[Panthers_Lover]

I'm not saying JR is infallible but I'm gonna defend him when the media and other nfl fans try to paint him as the sole reason that nothing is being solved CBA wise. The fault is on both sides but with this everyone not a Panthers fans is blaming JR 100%. If I see another bengal or redskins fan call him the worst owner in the leauge one more time I'm gonna flip.

there you go

[monstercat]

I'm not saying JR is infallible but I'm gonna defend him when the media and other nfl fans try to paint him as the sole reason that nothing is being solved CBA wise. The fault is on both sides but with this everyone not a Panthers fans is blaming JR 100%. If I see another bengal or redskins fan call him the worst owner in the leauge one more time I'm gonna flip.

Good post. I would damn sure rather have JR on my side that Dan freakin Snyder. That guy has no clue how to be a player or an owner. JR has done both, so it makes perfect sense to have him on the front lines.

Waits for Riddell to expain to us morons how he negotiated and won his last big labor agreement...

[CatMan72]

Like I said, turn 250 dollars into an NFL franchise in a small market valued at 12 billion dollars and then get back to me with questions about JR's business acumen.