"Time to bench Jerry Richardson"

[Floppin]

Jerry strikes me as someone who is business smart but not very football savvy relative to other owners

That's an odd perspective. Considering he's the only ex-player that's an owner.

[Panthro]

You need me to explain pea brain? You are arguing people are making generalized comments with no references, then you bring this chart for draft picks that some dude puts a numerical value on. Problem is, do you think those laughable values would be the same if Luck were in the draft? Secondly, if you think any GM in the league would value that, then you are further off than even I would give you credit for.

Boy I feel dumb now.

Before NFL general managers consider trading draft picks, they more often than not consult this value chart. The chart assigns each pick in the draft a point value, giving GMs an easy reference to compare the relative value of draft picks in different rounds

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670

This dude?

Yeah he was a moron but you are giving him a run for his money.

Now if you want to argue that the values change from year to year thats fine and I'd even agree with you. Stop acting so butthurt.

[Panthro]

I'm not talking out of my ass.

I certainly feel no need to prove it you.

I simply state facts that I have retained from the past. Just cause it goes against the conpiracy theorists around here, doesn't change anything.

You cannot prove me wrong, or you would have done so already.

Its simple really. Believe what you want. If you wish to remain misguided...that is your choice.

:rolleyes:

[ChinaPanther]

All business wants to maximize profit, that's not something specific to corporations. I don't agree with the tax exempt status of the NFL but I don't confuse that with or use that to alter my opinion of the 32 other organizations that are run independently of that.

I agree with that. Understanding the NFL business culture 101 we are having here! Lol Jerry is negotiating on behalf of 32 other owners and no one in that room is a corporate owner except the Green Bay CEO possibly. That goes to the inherent dare I say socialism within the NFL. What I am doing is describing the negotiation where they are negotiating their stake in a 10 figure piece of pie. That opportunity is usually exclusive to corporate owners rather than business owners in our country. This is getting way too technical!! lol

[top dawg]

Some of you guys are just plain old hypocrites. There is no way that you would smile and tell your billionaire bosses that you would take a pay cut just because they say that business is 'bad", and refused to show you the books to prove all of their proclamations and/or lamentations. If you say that you would, you're being disingenuous. If you would, then you're actually a dumb-ass. I would think that this especially rings true for NFL players who have relatively short careers and literally risk injury---some which could be career ending, or at least affect their earning potential very profoundly---every time they put on the pads.

The fact is is that owners just want to find a way to take a larger piece of the pie at the expense of the players (and ultimately the fans). They aren't really hurting. Jerry's "investment" has grown over 500 percent. Don't take my word for it, go see the numbers. The fact that the owners refuse to open their books should be a red flag to any dimwit who knows about the situation, and their refusal to show hard numbers should really tell you all that you need to know.

You can't come to a bargaining table in good faith while simultaneously trying to hide the big, grey elephant in the room. Any idiot should be able to see this, except some of the members of this forum.

[youmaywinsome]

Bench'em what a old fug anyway.