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There won't be any scabs/replacement players if the Owners lock the players out

dimbee

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No, a strike is only a possibility when a Collective Bargaining Agreement is in effect and the Players feel it is unfair and thus go on strike. As the Owners opted out of the CBA, there is no way for the players to strike. The Owners can lock the players out, but there is nothing that the Players can go on strike against. This was the gambit card the Owners played. Strike a deal on our terms or no football for anyone.

A strike is not possible with no CBA in place.

Now, the players could agree to the Owners CBA and then go on strike but that would so badly wound their perception that it would only hurt them more, IMO

that's it, i thought i read somewhere that the owners could force the CBA on the players because they used the power of lawyers to their advantage to screw the players over in such a way that it would make the players strike, and thus, making the players the bad guys.

maybe i heard wrong.

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that's it, i thought i read somewhere that the owners could force the CBA on the players because they used the power of lawyers to their advantage to screw the players over in such a way that it would make the players strike, and thus, making the players the bad guys.

maybe i heard wrong.

You definitely heard wrong. With no CBA, there is no way for the Players to strike.

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We seriously have a post that is inaccurate that is stickied... Jesus Christ.

How many times do we have to say that the owner will not be locking out, they will be putting into effect the last CBA offer they give the players (probably 38% - 46% post revenue) and then the players have a choice of playing or not playing, should they choose to not play it is not a lock out it is then a union strike.

When have you ever heard of a "lockout" anyways? Even when an employer actually does physically put a lock on the gates of their business when are scabs not brought in the next day?

Where is Mr. Scot when you need him :(

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Last year, lawyer David Cornwell was the first to suggest that the NFL’s plan won’t be to launch a work stoppage. Instead, Cornwell explained that the league will declare an impasse in the talks and impose on the players the terms of the last, best offer made by management. The players, who have been accusing the NFL of trying to take football away from the fans, would then have to decide whether to accept the rules or to go on strike, which would amount to the players taking football away from the fans.

Before the NFL can implement its last, best, pre-impasse offer, there has to be an impasse. And it’s starting to look like the owners will soon be able to declare that an impasse exists.

But the impasse, if it’s coming, won’t arise from a disagreement as to the substance of the talks. It will arise from the persistent inability of the two sides to agree to engage in meaningful talks on the real issues that need to be resolved.

“What point is there sitting down beating ourselves over the head when they’re saying, ‘We want $1 billion [in player salaries] back,’ and when we ask why they say, ‘Because we said so’?” Atallah said.

In other words, there’s no point in meeting. In other words, there’s an impasse.

Though much can happen between now and March 4, the league seems to be doing a nice job of laying the foundation to declare an impasse and to impose on March 4 the exact opposite of a lockout.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/18/league-may-be-setting-up-the-union-for-a-surprise/

But some league insiders remain convinced that the NFL is bluffing about a lockout, and that come March 4 the league will declare an impasse and impose the terms of its last, best offer before the impasse was reached. (It’s the “March 4 surprise” that we mentioned a couple of weeks ago.)

Of course, the terms imposed by the league will likely be less than the ultimate best offer, since further negotiation after impasse is declared will require the league as a practical matter to make concessions.

If that’s what happens, then the onus will fall on the players to accept the terms and continue to negotiate, or to strike. (The union undoubtedly would file a claim with the National Labor Relations Board arguing that impasse had not yet been reached.) Given all the rhetoric from the union about the financial harm that will be suffered in the event of a work stoppage, it will be difficult if not impossible for NFLPA leadership to stage a strike.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/30/some-league-insider-remain-convinced-impasse-not-lockout-is-coming/

Bow chicka wow wow

EDIT: SO... while its not 100% that the owners will get their wish on an impasse, that still doesn't mean it can't happen. Which this thread title clearly states is not possible which I have proved is, therefor I deserve pie... oh wait..

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Scabs are brought in when the Players strike, not when the Owners lock the players out. When the players are locked out, there is no football. No replacement players, unfortunately. :(

I thought this too.

However, I did read that there can be a twist to this. If the owners call an impass, they can put their last offer on the table and force the players to strike. Not sure if it is correct or true, but just something I saw out there.

Paging Mr. Scot.......

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