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JR condescending to Peyton Manning during CBA meeting?

CatMan72

By CatMan72,
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Panthers_Lover Newbie

Panthers_Lover

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Not really how it went down...but I'll take that.....my original comment came from someone telling me I didn't know anything about business...so I mentioned it and yeah MBA's are a dime a dozen.....only reason I'm getting it 15 years later is because my business is so slow that I can count the contracts on one hand....

It's not really a know it all thing, I just think that facts should be facts. What's the point in saying a bunch of stuff that has no merit. I got the book on my shelf, so I simply provided some facts.....maybe next week I'll get to the chapter on arbitration statutes.......sorry for the bragging tone....

but the monkeys following Richardson around like he's God are really annoying....so I guess I'm coming off like an arse.

That's one thing you've gotten right.

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MadHatter Rookie

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I don't think that the NFLPA is the only party that deserves to see itemized financial reports on the NFL.

I say all of us deserve to know that financial data as well.

Why? I personally believe that any beneficiary of tax shelters should be obligated to prove to the sponsoring public why their IRS tax exemptions are deserved, especially if they are running a pseudo-monopoly as the NFL is, especially if the market share is in billions, especially if national media is financially dependent on these deals, and especially if they are routinely negotiating labor agreements that set the standard for other labor agreements. The NFL is all of those things.

Of course, only a fool would argue that the NFLPA wants to see itemized financial reports on the operating expenses for anything other than cannon fodder in the labor negotiation. The NFLPA isn't asking on behalf of PUBLIC INTEREST. No, they only want to know for the purpose of protecting their own personal incomes, which is sometimes ill-gotten, but contractually obligatory.

So, while I support everything that the owners are asking from the NFLPA, I also support Congress forcing the NFL to publically disclose the financial data on operating expenses that the NFLPA requested on an annual basis.

Wow....that is ridiculous.

You actual think that every person out there deserves to see the financial record of a non-public company? Are you serious.

If so, then every person out there (including yourself) should be required to make their tax returns and personal data public.

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riddel Newbie

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Why are you so dead-set against him?

I can take a critical look at his actions. I just happen to believe the things about them that you do.

Proof is in the pudding. Watch, listen and read and you will see that Richardson is not working in the best interest of the NFL. The best negotiations end with a "win win" situation. Richardson is looking to win and he doesn't care whether the players and fans lose.

Richardson already tried the replacement player theory this season and the players and fans lost...while he cleaned up the books for the CBA negotiations.....he left 8 starting positions unfilled......2-14 is all the proof I need. Now he's disrespecting and demeaning hall of fame players intelligence? Give me a break.

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Panthers_Lover Newbie

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Proof is in the pudding. Watch, listen and read and you will see that Richardson is not working in the best interest of the NFL. The best negotiations end with a "win win" situation. Richardson is looking to win and he doesn't care whether the players and fans lose.

Richardson already tried the replacement player theory this season and the players and fans lost...while he cleaned up the books for the CBA negotiations.....he left 8 starting positions unfilled......2-14 is all the proof I need. Now he's disrespecting and demeaning hall of fame players intelligence? Give me a break.

Listen, the owners/NFL have appointed him as their representative, and have confirmed their faith in him since this "incident."

You are believing the hype by the unnamed players, including the one who wasn't in the room, and dismissing the reports that the conversation wasn't that contentious. You have dismissed anything that is contrary to your apparent hatred of Jerry Richardson. The "offended" players have received an apology for any perceived disrespect/demeaning, and they have moved on. Why can't you?

There are some things I know for sure. Jerry Richardson wants to the NFL to continue playing football, he wants his own team to win, and he cares about the fans.

I know these things because I know the man.

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Darth Bobo Newbie

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Wow....that is ridiculous.

You actual think that every person out there deserves to see the financial record of a non-public company? Are you serious.

If so, then every person out there (including yourself) should be required to make their tax returns and personal data public.

Not exactly :)

Usuaully, I would err on the side of liberty and privacy. But we live in an era where billion dollar corporations which are ignored by the SEC end up being freakish nightmares:

real monopolies(Mama Bell)

economic shell games(Enron)

too-big-to-fail scams(AIG)

bottomless vortexes of defaulted debt(Fannie May)

inefficient public bailout projects(GM)

I am all for erring on the side of individual privacy and liberty, but when it comes to multi-billion dollar corporations that have isolated their market, that are publically underwritten by virtue of their tax exemptions, occasionally exercise emminent domain against other private land owners, etc etc etc, I err on the side of the public's right to know.

If they don't want to disclose that kind of data, NO PROBLEM!!!!

Simply remove the public's right to know by removing the public's sponsorship of their business: refuse to give NFL teams tax exemptions, refuse their use of emminent domain, refuse to let them do exclusive merchandising deals(already done this year), etc. etc. etc.

:smash:

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I am all for erring on the side of individual privacy and liberty, but when it comes to multi-billion dollar corporations that have isolated their market, that are publically underwritten by virtue of their tax exemptions, occasionally exercise emminent domain against other private land owners, etc etc etc, I err on the side of the public's right to know.

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This is a right that doesn't exist

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riddel Newbie

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I know these things because I know the man.

Well, if you know him, then you should tell him he needs a PR rep. and a great deal of training when addressing the public. Most Panthers fans will support him blindly, but there are those of us that won't support these types of actions and I can assure you that the other 31 teams fans are going to hate Mr. Richardson before this is over. He has set himself up as the fall guy and all the NFL fans hate will be heading his way if this deal doesn't get done.

Richardson is being painted by the media and players as a guy who doesn't want a deal done and is still pissed over the labor contract from 2006.....

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