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JR condescending to Peyton Manning during CBA meeting?

CatMan72

By CatMan72,
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riddel Newbie

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My question is why Manning and Brees were sitting across from JR at a negotiating table in the first place? As far as I know, they do not represent the NFLPA in any official capacity?

This is a great point. If Manning, Brees or JR are negotiating, then they are suppose to be designated by at least 30% of the bargaining unit employees, usually in the form of signed and dated authorization cards. If these guys are not certified represetatives, meaning they have filed a RC petition seeking certification of an appropriate unit, then why are they at the negotiation table?

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riddel

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Here is what's next. The NLRB will require the owners to open the books, due to their duty to furnish information.

When an employer claims financial inability to meet a union wage demand, the financial information of the employer's company becomes relevant. The Supreme Court held that if such a claim by the employer is importan enough to be made at the table, it REQUIRES some proof of its accuracy. Refusal to grant wage increases because the employer claims it could not stay competitive or would lose the profit margin was held by the board to invoke finacial inability. Therefore, financial data become relevant.

It's all going to come out sooner or later, the owners should go ahead and get the books ready....:banghead:

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Happy Panther Grand Master

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Here is what's next. The NLRB will require the owners to open the books, due to their duty to furnish information.

When an employer claims financial inability to meet a union wage demand, the financial information of the employer's company becomes relevant. The Supreme Court held that if such a claim by the employer is importan enough to be made at the table, it REQUIRES some proof of its accuracy. Refusal to grant wage increases because the employer claims it could not stay competitive or would lose the profit margin was held by the board to invoke finacial inability. Therefore, financial data become relevant.

It's all going to come out sooner or later, the owners should go ahead and get the books ready....:banghead:

That's interesting

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I don't think that the NFLPA is the only party that deserves to see itemized financial reports on the NFL.

I say all of us deserve to know that financial data as well.

Why? I personally believe that any beneficiary of tax shelters should be obligated to prove to the sponsoring public why their IRS tax exemptions are deserved, especially if they are running a pseudo-monopoly as the NFL is, especially if the market share is in billions, especially if national media is financially dependent on these deals, and especially if they are routinely negotiating labor agreements that set the standard for other labor agreements. The NFL is all of those things.

Of course, only a fool would argue that the NFLPA wants to see itemized financial reports on the operating expenses for anything other than cannon fodder in the labor negotiation. The NFLPA isn't asking on behalf of PUBLIC INTEREST. No, they only want to know for the purpose of protecting their own personal incomes, which is sometimes ill-gotten, but contractually obligatory.

So, while I support everything that the owners are asking from the NFLPA, I also support Congress forcing the NFL to publically disclose the financial data on operating expenses that the NFLPA requested on an annual basis.

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Here is what's next. The NLRB will require the owners to open the books, due to their duty to furnish information.

When an employer claims financial inability to meet a union wage demand, the financial information of the employer's company becomes relevant. The Supreme Court held that if such a claim by the employer is importan enough to be made at the table, it REQUIRES some proof of its accuracy. Refusal to grant wage increases because the employer claims it could not stay competitive or would lose the profit margin was held by the board to invoke finacial inability. Therefore, financial data become relevant.

It's all going to come out sooner or later, the owners should go ahead and get the books ready....:banghead:

Why are they even going through this process? They should just ask you.

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riddel Newbie

riddel

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Nah, you just come on here preaching to everyone like you know it all and brag about being an MBA student. Well congrats, you're a dime a dozen, enjoy unemployment.

Not really how it went down...but I'll take that.....my original comment came from someone telling me I didn't know anything about business...so I mentioned it and yeah MBA's are a dime a dozen.....only reason I'm getting it 15 years later is because my business is so slow that I can count the contracts on one hand....

It's not really a know it all thing, I just think that facts should be facts. What's the point in saying a bunch of stuff that has no merit. I got the book on my shelf, so I simply provided some facts.....maybe next week I'll get to the chapter on arbitration statutes.......sorry for the bragging tone....

but the monkeys following Richardson around like he's God are really annoying....so I guess I'm coming off like an arse.

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