JR condescending to Peyton Manning during CBA meeting?

[rico6]

lmfao

DONT RAGE ON THA BIG KAT!!1

[Zod]

If you all are shocked by Richardsons words, you would not last long in a board room.

These players who know very little about business compared to JR should not expect to be coddled by him. This isn't the locker room, this is the board room. They are opposing interests in negotiation. If the players are going to cry about being treated like people in business and not celebrities, maybe they should let their attorneys speak for them.

[PrimeTyme]

anyone who wouldnt support a pay cut in their own job cant possibly support the owners...

if your boss called you in his office and said that dispite a record increase in your business you need to take a pay cut... would you say "great?"

expecting the NFL players to take a pay cut is just crazy.. you wouldnt do it and neither should they

[twylyght]

Listen to Jay Feeley's comments at 11:30:

http://cdn16.castfire.com/audio/303/2115/7281/510131/kay_2011-02-10-163531-3953-0-0-0.32.mp3?cdn_id=33&uuid=38c728ea21edb3055da00da6fd3fa694&referer=http://twitter.com/

For me, the obvious answer is this. Players want to engage in negotiation like playing in the NFL is a partnership rather than employment.

At that point, the question is simple: If the league is doing worse, are you willing to take a pay cut?

The players that I have seen will say "No". If you aren't willing to take on the risk, then you don't take on the key role of owning a business. Anything else is demanding your cake while eating theirs too.

What Jay Feely is describing is a runaway train of ego running into a genuine business model crisis amongst ownership. It was more interesting to hear his take on revenue sharing amonst owners and the in-fighting amongst owners. I'm not sure why the more interesting point was laid out as players getting their feelings hurt when they insist on a chair at the business table and then come up short-handed on understanding the basics.

If what JR said is true about operating at a loss, then something is seriously wrong. I have little doubt that payroll is the lion's share of the problem having seen businesses struggle as a result.

On a different note, hearing Sirius DJs talk about how no one should feel bad for the owners because they have multiple businesses to go with their billions of dollars is an affront to morality. Just because someone has money does not give you the right to take it if you have less. If someone has mutliple businesses, then they are working with those businesses and assuming the risk that goes with those businesses as well. In a bad economy, that stress is magnified exponentially because you have multiple bad situations going on at the same time.

Given the history, I am less inclined to side with the players given their regard for their employers. If the NFL cleaned house and started all over with their rosters, I wouldn't care in the slightest. Perhaps then, the players would realize what it is like to be like the rest of the world.

[Pox 08]

Did people expect Richardson to get on his knees and lick Peyton's balls or something? Peyton Manning is an insect compared to Richardson in the business world.

[Tank]

This is interesting. Jerry seems like the type of person who would throw away next season over stubbornness.

I'm guessing that the rest of the owners are letting him negotiate right now because he is the most bullheaded and the one who is not afraid to be a condescending ass to the players.

But hopefully he gets pulled in favor of reason in the next couple weeks.

This is a show right now.

Bingo. My take on this is the owners haven't planned to budge on this thing from the beginning. Jerry is the appointed ass hole front man as the owners know he will run this thing right into the ditch. He fits the role perfectly as he is a proven condencending, stubbon ass hole.

[dimbee]

Out of context from a biased perspective.

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Can't make a judgement based on this.

Sounds like you did.

[theyhateme45]

If you all are shocked by Richardsons words, you would not last long in a board room.

These players who know very little about business compared to JR should not expect to be coddled by him. This isn't the locker room, this is the board room. They are opposing interests in negotiation. If the players are going to cry about being treated like people in business and not celebrities, maybe they should let their attorneys speak for them.

And how do you know those players know very little about business? Your making just as much assumptions by thinking JR knows so much more than them. Just because you have money and you own a business does not mean you know anymore than the next guy. All owners are not geniuses. Some just had opportunity present itself to them and you they jumped on it, or some had the balls to go get and do something they felt would work.... Does not make one anymore knowledgeable.

And I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. As an auditor I see VP's, presidents or high managers who does not know half of the crap they should know... It's surprising and shocking but true....Never realized until I started doing walkthroughs, and having discussions with them to clear up potential findings.

If this is a board room... then why are professionals getting up and walking out, or calling players son and speaking to the with a lack of respect. Saying that is how things work is WRONG!!! Even Wal-Mart does not abuse their potential partners in the board room like that. I Also know this because my father is VP of Finance at a global company and he had numerous meetings with Wal-Mart exploring a potential partnership. One thing you do is to have respect... You don't take business personal, but you always give respect. You do not talk down to them because you have more $$$ or you feel you are bigger and better.... That is not had negotiations get done, and that is not how deals get made.

So don't spew that crap about players just being treated like business people cause that is not how it goes.

[Davidson Deac II]

I don't care which side is right or wrong. I don't care which side wins and loses. I just hope they play football next year.

[twylyght]

And how do you know those players know very little about business? Your making just as much assumptions by thinking JR knows so much more than them. Just because you have money and you own a business does not mean you know anymore than the next guy. All owners are not geniuses. Some just had opportunity present itself to them and you they jumped on it, or some had the balls to go get and do something they felt would work.... Does not make one anymore knowledgeable.

And I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. As an auditor I see VP's, presidents or high managers who does not know half of the crap they should know... It's surprising and shocking but true....Never realized until I started doing walkthroughs, and having discussions with them to clear up potential findings.

If this is a board room... then why are professionals getting up and walking out, or calling players son and speaking to the with a lack of respect. Saying that is how things work is WRONG!!! Even Wal-Mart does not abuse their potential partners in the board room like that. I Also know this because my father is VP of Finance at a global company and he had numerous meetings with Wal-Mart exploring a potential partnership. One thing you do is to have respect... You don't take business personal, but you always give respect. You do not talk down to them because you have more $$$ or you feel you are bigger and better.... That is not had negotiations get done, and that is not how deals get made.

So don't spew that crap about players just being treated like business people cause that is not how it goes.

I am more apt to believe that football players know less about business than their employers. If I have employees screaming for a place at the business table before they've proven their business acumen, then I would at leat expect them to understand the basics before harping demands. What you have heard is a player and his perspective on what happened. I doubt you'd hear the same from an owner.

[Sword]

I"m surprised no one has put this quote on the JR press conference picture with him holding the pie chart sketch on a notepad...

[theyhateme45]

I am more apt to believe that football players know less about business than their employers. If I have employees screaming for a place at the business table before they've proven their business acumen, then I would at leat expect them to understand the basics before harping demands. What you have heard is a player and his perspective on what happened. I doubt you'd hear the same from an owner.

Players who join and partake in these discussion are representing the rest of their union, it is their role to know what is going with the business. So no, it's not the same.

If you want to compare it to something compare in to teacher/union/police/automotive representatives of their respective unions. I guess they all do not know anything either.

[Lakejamescat]

The Colt's QB is quick to be offended by JR because HE actually acts the same way when he wants something.

[Fox007]

He hurt my feelings!