Jake Delhomme to be released...again.

[KillerKat]

in three less games. The average isn't that much, about three more passes per game. But Beuerlein played in a completely different offense with a WCO than Jake did. Jake never played a year where they passed more than they ran. Every year Beuerlein played for Carolina they passed more than they ran.

You just said it yourself...the average wasn't that much. Despite Steve being in a WCO. That statement contradicts your earlier one in which you said they threw it way more than with Jake.

[Floppin]

You just said it yourself...the average wasn't that much. That statement contradicts your earlier one in which you said they threw it way more than with Jake.

As a percentage of total plays they did. The difference was that Jake's team was way more successful and they had more total offensive plays. Had Beuerleins team had the same amount of offensive plays with the same percentage of passes being thrown, he would have thrown almost 600 more passes, in 3 less games.

[mav1234]

the difference is Steve did it with a lesser team (that's including coaches)

eh. the offense Steve ran was much more pass heavy. While the offense and team as a whole was not as successful with it I'd be willing to bet they had a greater percentage of pass plays under Steve than Jake had. Just they had the ball less... but I may be wrong.

[KillerKat]

As a percentage of total plays they did. The difference was that Jake's team was way more successful and they had more total offensive plays. Had Beuerleins team had the same amount of offensive plays with the same percentage of passes being thrown, he would have thrown almost 600 more passes, in 3 less games.

And that means he isn't a better passer how? The numbers still have him as better. Hey, ever thought that the reason they threw more is because Steve's teams were mostly playing from behind due to the fact he had lesser quality teams than Jake? Nahhh can't be that. That would favor Beuerlein.

[Floppin]

They threw more because WCO's throw more....it's called the "Scheme of the Offense"

[KillerKat]

They threw more because WCO's throw more....it's called the "Scheme of the Offense"

Never heard of playing catch up? I can tell you that made the throw attempts rise. Still wasn't that huge difference of attempts between Steve's 3 full seasons and Jake's first 3 (when you consider the games we had to play from behind in with Steve) even if you take away 3 games worth of attemps from Jake so that they both have 44 games between them. Anyway, all of the numbers are still in Beuerlein's favor. So the arguement about this is moot.

[Floppin]

Any numbers that are in his favor, and it's not all of them, are just barely in his favor, so it's not like we are comparing Ryan Leaf to Peyton Manning. They are statistically the same player for all intents and purposes, Beuerleins 1999 season's numbers were inflated because of the scheme and that he had a year well beyond his average year.

But we'll just have to agree to disagree, because I need to fold laundry and fondle myself now.

[jasonluckydog]

Jake is and will always be a Panther 1st......

[KillerKat]

Any numbers that are in his favor, and it's not all of them, are just barely in his favor, so it's not like we are comparing Ryan Leaf to Peyton Manning. They are statistically the same player for all intents and purposes, Beuerleins 1999 season's numbers were inflated because of the scheme and that he had a year well beyond his average year.

But we'll just have to agree to disagree, because I need to fold laundry and fondle myself now.

Beuerleins 99 season was his best. Jakes 2004 season was his best. So lets compare shall we?

Beuerlein: Attempts - 571

Delhommme: Attempts - 533

So no, Beuerlein's numbers were not inflated solely because of scheme. Their amount of attempts were close together with the exact same amount of games. Let's go further:

Beuerlein: TDs - 36, INTs - 15, Cmp% - 60.1, TD% - 6.3, INT% - 2.6, QBrate - 94.6

Delhomme: TDs - 29, INTs - 15, Cmp% - 58.2, TD% - 5.4, INT% - 2.8, QBrate - 87.3

Delhomme's numbers couldn't be inflated because of scheme. Could it be because they had to play from behind alot? No that couldn't be because that would ruin your argument against Beuerlein. Besides that specific argument, Beuerlein's best is better than Delhomme's best.

[Blitzkrieg Panther]

I like Both Beuerlein and Delhomme. Two of my favorite panthers of all times, I agree with the mass other posts to let him retire a panther. Only request is that we have a QB with an easy name to spell.

[Liminy]

aww I like Jake, I don't want him here though. Maybe he should start some sort of radio cast or something.

[Catalyst]

Bring him back as a backup! He'd be an OUTSTANDING mentor to Clausen - or Newton if we draft him.

[frash.exe]

Bring him back as a backup! He'd be an OUTSTANDING mentor to Clausen - or Newton if we draft him.

like fuging how

[Catalyst]

He's a great leader and can show them how to follow in his footsteps in that regard. He may not be able to get it done on the field anymore, but he's one of the most respected players we've ever had. There's a reason for that.