Whom do you side with in the CBA negotiations

[Happy Panther]

Poll coming

[Matt Moore]

the fans

[SCP]

I side with the season ticket holder.

I don't think we should have to pay until a CBA is agreed upon. Screw the refund bullsh*t they are talking about. When you guys sign a deal, we will pay for the tickets.

[Happy Panther]

I side with the season ticket holder.

I don't think we should have to pay until a CBA is agreed upon. Screw the refund bullsh*t they are talking about. When you guys sign a deal, we will pay for the tickets.

This is an interesting twist for teams with PSL holders. JR may be leading the charge but is in a different situation in that 80% of the stadium is sold out every year unless people start letting their PSLs laps.

Which will happen if a CBA is not in place by the time bills go out.

Of course I'm renewing but whatever

[Dpantherman]

neither of those rich, overpaid bastards

[Highlandfire]

Poll coming

Owners. No employees should make the % of the business that they are.

[Highlandfire]

neither of those rich, overpaid bastards

So according to you all owners of business' are rich, overpaid bastards?

[Dpantherman]

Is that what I said?

[blackcatgrowl]

Voting Pie.

When Millionaires are bitching to Billionaires about money, the whole conversation is absurd, as in out in left field absurd.

The owners need to cave some. The players need to cave some. It's in both of their interests and ours as fans. Right now it seems that this is becoming an ego match.

[Mr. Scot]

Myself.

[Matt Moore]

highlandfire wastes no time

fails hard and early

[rayzor]

both sides are being a bit unreasonable at the moment. trying to hard to play hardball.

i don't mind the owners for trying to level things out after they got beat up in the last CBA, but this time they (and i'm more referring to JR's comments in the press conference) are being obstinate. the owners are saying that the players are trying to get paid more and asking to work less, while it is the owners who are looking at the situation and trying to get the players to work more and take less money.

the problem are the guys who are at the top for both parties. sadly, that means our owner is one of the problems. i respect the man, but i think he's doing more harm than good with the negotiations.

the players have only asked for a couple things that i don't think are unreasonable and then they would be fine with the plans the owners have. it should be easy to come to a point of agreement. they just need to quit being pissy.

[SCP]

Of course I'm renewing but whatever

Oh, I am as well. I'm just saying that is what the other PSL holders should do.

[Swarly]

I just think it's funny the players think they're entitled to 50% of the income.

Go ahead and name me one successful business where the employees make equal or more than the employers. Players are being greedy and think they have leverage when they don't. Owners are already filthy rich and have been preparing for this exact situation for years. I'd bet that more than half the players will be broke a month into the season and will end up taking a deal much worse than what they're being offered now.

With that said, I don't side with either. It's difficult to side with billionaire owners who are going to make us go without football for a while, and the millionaire players certainly aren't helping. Both sides need to realize they're making more money than 99% of the population and move on.