Schefter: CBA Meeting for Today Canceled, JR Rubbing People Wrong Way

[PantherFanForLife]

You know, like most people I'm not really buying the owners are going broke. Overall they are probably just making less money then they want to be. But I really do think they might also be making less money than they SHOULD be making.

Now Green Bay is just an example, and I'm sure there are teams out there that make a lot more money. But has anybody taken the time to think about that a bit? Green Bay, the Franchise made 9.8 million dollars in profit last year. 9.8 million!

There are players that make more than that! WTF? That's HORRIBLE!

There is no way a QB or any player should make more than any owner or franchise in the NFL. Realistically speaking, I thought each club was bringing in at least somewhere in the neighborhood of 25-50 million dollars a year. To hear that was pretty shocking to me.

Either the money is getting sucked out by other means which is why owners don't want to open their books, and what's being shown as real profit may not be entirely accurate OR the owners really have gotten majorly screwed!

Honestly, the union just needs to fuging go away. It's like this. "I'm an owner, and you are a player. You want to work for me? This is how much you are going to make. You don't like it? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! Or go start your own freaking football team and you can pay your players whatever you want"

PS: Forget opening their books. You guys should stop wanting that. The IRS would totally destroy the NFL for good. You think those books aren't fudged at all? That's the main reason owners won't open them up.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Now Green Bay is just an example, and I'm sure there are teams out there that make a lot more money. But has anybody taken the time to think about that a bit? Green Bay, the Franchise made 9.8 million dollars in profit last year. 9.8 million!

There are players that make more than that! WTF? That's HORRIBLE!

There is no way a QB or any player should make more than any owner or franchise in the NFL. Realistically speaking, I thought each club was bringing in at least somewhere in the neighborhood of 25-50 million dollars a year. To hear that was pretty shocking to me.

Either the money is getting sucked out by other means which is why owners don't want to open their books, and what's being shown as real profit may not be entirely accurate OR the owners really have gotten majorly screwed!

Honestly, the union just needs to fuging go away. It's like this. "I'm an owner, and you are a player. You want to work for me? This is how much you are going to make. You don't like it? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! Or go start your own freaking football team and you can pay your players whatever you want"

PS: Forget opening their books. You guys should stop wanting that. The IRS would totally destroy the NFL for good. You think those books aren't fudged at all? That's the main reason owners won't open them up.

Not only will they not want the IRS to see these book but I would imagine owners would not want to disclose their revenues to each other..they will realize that the revenue sharing is not equal and have infighting within the owners ranks could occur.

A lot of this is about the revenue sharing too but to solve it just get more money and they can split that new pie unequally too.

[Swarly]

The NFLPA isn't even arguing on behalf of the guys in an out of the league within a few years and are broke. They're just trying to make their millionaire athletes richer.

I'm 20, and by the time I graduate college I'll be roughly $80k in debt. If you factor in graduate school you can double that number. Then comes the part of finding a job, which is already tough enough... the majority of these NFL players are given a FREE ride through college, and then in their first job ever they make like $300k/season AT LEAST. Why should we feel sorry for them if they can't properly invest that money to take care of their future? Why should we feel sorry that most of them chose the easiest major to play football? Why should we feel sorry for them when they make probably 500% more than the average HOUSEHOLD income?

I'm on the "they're both being greedy idiots and it's causing me to miss football for a while" side. Both sides are being greedy, and it's insulting to hear these millionaires try to portray themselves as the "average joe" when they make more in a month than most do in a year.

[Happy Panther]

If you are going to equate workers to the NFL you need to

1) Pick a profession where the workers are the product. This could be high level sales, consulting or banking. i.e. not a paper factory where if you fire someone the paper still gets made

2) Within that profession pick a company that has managed to hire the top 1% of 1% of 1% of available talent.

Imagine a consulting firm that NASA hires to make sure shuttle launches go well.

There are plenty of sales firms where the salesmen make many mutiples of the CEO.

In any of these instances you shouldn't blink at salaries >> 50% of revenue

Investment bakers make just as much as NFL players except at the highest level and don't have a 100% injury rate or expected career of 3.3 years.

I can see both sides however most of you need to stop comparing nfl players to your average accounting grad from Western Carolina

[Happy Panther]

I'm 20, and by the time I graduate college I'll be roughly $80k in debt. If you factor in graduate school you can double that number. Then comes the part of finding a job, which is already tough enough... the majority of these NFL players are given a FREE ride through college, and then in their first job ever they make like $300k/season AT LEAST. Why should we feel sorry for them if they can't properly invest that money to take care of their future? Why should we feel sorry that most of them chose the easiest major to play football? Why should we feel sorry for them when they make probably 500% more than the average HOUSEHOLD income?

If you were good enough you could have gotten a free ride through college. You obviously weren't.

Anyway this isn't about sympathy towards either side. This is about understanding that the players are being presented with a pay decrease for more hours and don't like it. And the owners are worried that they won't be making money in a few years.

[Swarly]

If you were good enough you could have gotten a free ride through college. You obviously weren't.

Anyway this isn't about sympathy towards either side. This is about understanding that the players are being presented with a pay decrease for more hours and don't like it. And the owners are worried that they won't be making money in a few years.

okay? what does that have to do with anything I said lol? of course I wasn't good enough. I was saying they're given so many opportunities to NOT go broke, more than probably 99% of the population. No one to blame but themselves for that.

either way, I get it. NFL players have a unique talent and deserve to be paid as such. if they increase the season, they should be paid more. I was simply saying they need to stop the whole "we're just the average guy trying to feed the family" act.

[frash.exe]

i love how people think since they live within the means of their 20k a year best buy assistant manager position that any NFL player can just retire with 300 grand, move into a studio apartment and live off of ramen noodles and kool aid packets for the rest of their lives