I'm starting 2 hope Jimmy can prove people wrong.

[mav1234]

Could have been the toe injury, could have been a desire to get the ball too quickly. It is hard to say. From everything I have seen, Rip likely didn't do him many favors either. I don't remember his release in college being as sidearm and low as it was this year but I didn't see that many ND games so maybe it was me. But I was pretty excited when we got him until I actually saw him play. I think for most of us it was a huge disappointment.

It wasn't just you.

Something that may be telling was a Clausen quote from an ESPN article. In reference to his throwing motion, he said that ND coaches didn't work on the motion at all, just worked on him getting the ball out as quickly as possible. The focus was on a quick release, not so much mechanics. Which makes me wonder if a certain QB coach had a different take on it.

Edit:

The comparisons must have been Rodgers coming out of college not the guy we saw on Sunday. I agree that the Clausen we saw this year was a huge disappointment after all the hype. Seemed like the guy we saw was nothing like the guy in college. I don't know if it was all Rip but he didn't do the kid any favors it would seem.

I think it was more about the supposed tools he brought to the position and what not, but I could be wrong. I don't think that those articles were saying Clausen would step into a system and look like Rodgers from day one, but that a favorable projection would have him ending up like Rodgers.

[koolkatluke]

It wasn't just you.

Something that may be telling was a Clausen quote from an ESPN article. In reference to his throwing motion, he said that ND coaches didn't work on the motion at all, just worked on him getting the ball out as quickly as possible. The focus was on a quick release, not so much mechanics. Which makes me wonder if a certain QB coach had a different take on it.

Edit:

I think it was more about the supposed tools he brought to the position and what not, but I could be wrong. I don't think that those articles were saying Clausen would step into a system and look like Rodgers from day one, but that a favorable projection would have him ending up like Rodgers.

Remeber him doing the same poo 2 Jake when he was hired. "I'm going 2 work on Jake footwork and it will help his throwing motion" Bullshit.

I really think Rip fug this kid up I hope Shula can fix some of the damage Rip did.

[jtnc]

I too wish Jimmy would do better cause he is a PANTHER. And he's one of our QB's like it or not.

[NorthTryon]

I think he deserves another chance. I hope that toe will be fully healed, it had to have some type of effect:

Clausen is an extremely accurate passer, though he lacks the same zip on the deep ball and certain intermediate routes as quarterbacks such as Matt Moore. And while Clausen sloughed off talk that the toe problem hampered him now, those familiar with mechanics said it could be a huge factor.

"More than you think. You can't underestimate what an impact that could be," said San Diego-based quarterbacks tutor George Whitfield. "It's like a jump shooter in basketball who has a sprained ankle. Sure, you could shoot sitting in a chair, but to really elevate, to really have anything under your shot, you need that strong base.

"To have any toe problem is bad, the big toe is worse. For a right-handed quarterback, having anything wrong with a (right) big toe is definitely going to affect your power, but also your confidence to take a shot downfield."

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/08/25/1641635/clausen-nursing-sore-toe-plans.html#ixzz1DMEMKZ4H

[koolkatluke]

Jimmy Clausen

Position: QB School: Notre Dame

Height: 6’2 1/2" Weight: 222 lbs

Class: Junior 40 time: -.--

Overall Grade: 6.74 Draft Projection: First Round

Non-position specific categories

Category Max. Value Grade

Height/Weight 6 4.5

Speed 8 5

Quickness/Agility 10 7

Strength/Explosion 10 6.5

Athletic Ability 8 6.5

Durability 8 7.5

Character 6 4

Production/Experience 6 5

Toughness 8 7

Potential 10 10

Quarterback Specific Categories

Category Max. Value Grade

Decision Making 10 9

Arm Strength 7 7

Accuracy 10 6.5

Mechanics/Footwork 7 7

Mobility 6 4

Release Quickness 8 8

Explanation of Player Grading System

Strengths

Very strong arm. Good basic mechanics and footwork. Extremely quick release with a high release point. Has the ability to change his release point if necessary. Became an excellent decision maker his senior year. Played in a pro-style offense and had excellent QB coaching. Knows when to throw the ball away. Tremendous potential.

Weaknesses

Only average size for a QB. Not as accurate as you’d like to see. When under pressure for long stretches of time he gets happy feet in the pocket and will throw the ball away too early. Mechanics become poor when under pressure. Doesn’t throw with touch. Deep ball accuracy is on and off. Questionable character and leadership abilities.

Analysis

Clausen probably has more superstar potential than Sam Bradford does, but also has a higher probability for busting. Notre Dame quarterbacks haven’t fared well in the NFL as of late, but Clausen could change that. Most of his issues are coachable and we wish he would have stayed in school another year. He’ll need to go to a team with a stable offensive line to give him time, or expect him to turn in to the next Brady Quinn.

Experience

Clausen began starting during his freshman season and has started ever since.

Awards and Honors

2009: n/a

2008: n/a

2007: n/a

Academics

Sociology major at Notre Dame.

Injuries

Suffered turf toe at end of 2009 season, requiring offseason surgery.

Career Stats

Year Comp Att % Yards TD INT Sacks Rush Yds Rush TD

2009 289 425 68.0 3722 28 4 59 -95 3

2008 268 440 60.9 3172 25 17 54 -73 0

2007 138 245 56.3 1254 7 6 62 -187 2

This is one breakdown and alot of others are just like this!!!

Mayock isn't stupid I respect his opinion more then Kiper and Mcshay and he had Jimmy as a top 10 prospect.

[mav1234]

Like the little bit about a stable offensive line or him becoming the next Brady Quinn. Wonderful.

[panthers55]

Jimmy Clausen

Position: QB School: Notre Dame

Height: 6’2 1/2" Weight: 222 lbs

Class: Junior 40 time: -.--

Overall Grade: 6.74 Draft Projection: First Round

Non-position specific categories

Category Max. Value Grade

Height/Weight 6 4.5

Speed 8 5

Quickness/Agility 10 7

Strength/Explosion 10 6.5

Athletic Ability 8 6.5

Durability 8 7.5

Character 6 4

Production/Experience 6 5

Toughness 8 7

Potential 10 10

Quarterback Specific Categories

Category Max. Value Grade

Decision Making 10 9

Arm Strength 7 7

Accuracy 10 6.5

Mechanics/Footwork 7 7

Mobility 6 4

Release Quickness 8 8

Explanation of Player Grading System

Strengths

Very strong arm. Good basic mechanics and footwork. Extremely quick release with a high release point. Has the ability to change his release point if necessary. Became an excellent decision maker his senior year. Played in a pro-style offense and had excellent QB coaching. Knows when to throw the ball away. Tremendous potential.

Weaknesses

Only average size for a QB. Not as accurate as you’d like to see. When under pressure for long stretches of time he gets happy feet in the pocket and will throw the ball away too early. Mechanics become poor when under pressure. Doesn’t throw with touch. Deep ball accuracy is on and off. Questionable character and leadership abilities.

Analysis

Clausen probably has more superstar potential than Sam Bradford does, but also has a higher probability for busting. Notre Dame quarterbacks haven’t fared well in the NFL as of late, but Clausen could change that. Most of his issues are coachable and we wish he would have stayed in school another year. He’ll need to go to a team with a stable offensive line to give him time, or expect him to turn in to the next Brady Quinn.

Experience

Clausen began starting during his freshman season and has started ever since.

Awards and Honors

2009: n/a

2008: n/a

2007: n/a

Academics

Sociology major at Notre Dame.

Injuries

Suffered turf toe at end of 2009 season, requiring offseason surgery.

Career Stats

Year Comp Att % Yards TD INT Sacks Rush Yds Rush TD

2009 289 425 68.0 3722 28 4 59 -95 3

2008 268 440 60.9 3172 25 17 54 -73 0

2007 138 245 56.3 1254 7 6 62 -187 2

This is one breakdown and alot of others are just like this!!!

Mayock isn't stupid I respect his opinion more then Kiper and Mcshay and he had Jimmy as a top 10 prospect.

I do hope that Mayock is wrong about the brady Quinn comparisons. It seems that we got to see most of his negatives given he was frequently pressured and had little confidence. I am looking forward to seeing if we will see the positives he mentioned next year.

[koolkatluke]

I do hope that Mayock is wrong about the brady Quinn comparisons. It seems that we got to see most of his negatives given he was frequently pressured and had little confidence. I am looking forward to seeing if we will see the positives he mentioned next year.

He did come out of a horrible freshman year and improve every year after that.

[panthernation23]

JIMMY CLAUSEN - ROOKIE

RECIEVERS - 2 ROOKIES + SMITTY(NOT AS GOOD ANYMORE)

LINE - PROBOWLERS INJURED, TERRIBLE OVERALL LINE

RB'S - INJURED

OC - WORST IN LEAGUE

ok now that i got your attention, under these circumstances no qb would have a good year, not manning, not brady, not rodgers.

For starters, QB's need more time to develop, so shut up and calm down and watch his progression the next 2 years. You dont throw your 1st pick in the draft to the curb cause he had a bad rookie year. He was surrounded by a bunch of injured people & rookie recievers, not to mention the idiot of the league at our OC position.

[koolkatluke]

My question again is if we fix things around Jimmy can he become the player Mayock and many other scouts though he could be?

[DaveThePanther2008]

I am on this bandwagon...actually never fell off it.

Clausen had the backing of a great offensive mind. Charlie Weis. You saw what he did in NE and recently in KC. I don't think Clausen just left his talent in Indiana I think he had some crappy,, I don't give a $hit, coaching. As much as I have always like John Fox I don't think he gave 2 $hits whether Clausen developed or not. He wouldn't have stayed even if JR offered him a contract.

[rico6]

Pending on the lockout, Jimmy's going to have another leash on life in the NFL. I believe the mental tools are there for Jimmy, it's the right coaching that's going to get him over the hill.

When using other franchise QB's for example, Aaron specifically. He had one of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time to constantly watch, be coached, and be mentally prepared to be an NFL Caliber QB.

Last year, Jimmy was undoubtedly thrown into the wolves, but so were Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, etc. And they all shown that underneath their rookie shells, there were great talents waiting to be utilized.

Jimmy in this previous season, shown nothing, no flashes of brilliance, no wow factor, no nothing. I do pin a good chunk of blame on the staff, and Jerry's non-committal to producing a competitive team this year, however. Still nonetheless, I at least expected something out of the guy.

Jimmy should most definitely be put on watch this year. If he's still a bum with the current Offensive cast surrounding him, then he needs to sit. However, if he pulls an Aaron Smith then I'll be greatly relieved.

[Udogg]

"When under pressure for long stretches of time he gets happy feet in the pocket and will throw the ball away too early. Mechanics become poor when under pressure. Doesn’t throw with touch. Deep ball accuracy is on and off. Questionable character and leadership abilities."

I guess the good thing is we have seen all the weaknesses. Maybe the strengths will show up this year. I hope to god he improves. I would love for him to be our franchise QB for forever. My main grip/complaint is that I haven't seen the good stuff, or signs that the good stuff exist. Hopefully he will be ready to go and I will cheer for him to succeed. Or he will suck again and we will have the #1 pick again.

[koolkatluke]

Pending on the lockout, Jimmy's going to have another leash on life in the NFL. I believe the mental tools are there for Jimmy, it's the right coaching that's going to get him over the hill.

When using other franchise QB's for example, Aaron specifically. He had one of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time to constantly watch, be coached, and be mentally prepared to be an NFL Caliber QB.

Last year, Jimmy was undoubtedly thrown into the wolves, but so were Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, etc. And they all shown that underneath their rookie shells, there were great talents waiting to be utilized.

Jimmy in this previous season, shown nothing, no flashes of brilliance, no wow factor, no nothing. I do pin a good chunk of blame on the staff, and Jerry's non-committal to producing a competitive team this year, however. Still nonetheless, I at least expected something out of the guy.

Jimmy should most definitely be put on watch this year. If he's still a bum with the current Offensive cast surrounding him, then he needs to sit. However, if he pulls an Aaron Smith then I'll be greatly relieved.

You mean Aaron rodgers Aaron Smith a DE.