"Coach, there's too much pressure on me..."

[Mr. Scot]

Word now that Palmer is selling his house.

Mortensen seems to believe that if it comes to a staredown, Palmer won't blink.

[blak-n-blu]

Bring back Kerry!

[Mr. Scot]

Or you could check out the clip of Johnny McEntee posted in the lounge

(probably not a serious prospect, but fun to watch)

[rayzor]

only QBs under 30, please.

[frash.exe]

when a head coach would rather start Philip Rivers with a torn acl than Volek for the AFCC, it's not exactly a vote of confidence in favor of his capabilities

[MadHatter]

You are completely ignoring the fact that Vince Young was drafted that year and played more football than Volek did in the pre-season, then went on to feature in 15 games whilst starting 13.

Explain to me how Volek had any realistic shot, they always intended on getting Young on the field as soon as they could.

Agreed.

Hmmmm.....team drafts a high first round QB and signs a veteran QB in the same offseason...God I have no idea why Volek questioned the organziation or their committment to him.

[MadHatter]

if the guy is so good why havent other teams tried to trade for him? Last year obviously was a QB carousel throughout the league and if he was such a great QB why wasnt he included in talks? I doubt it would have costed much to get him.

I don't think many people here are advocating that he is the Franchise Guy for the Panthers. Just that he might be one of those capable vets that can hold down the fort and manage the game for a season or two.

[rayzor]

Agreed.

Hmmmm.....team drafts a high first round QB and signs a veteran QB in the same offseason...God I have no idea why Volek questioned the organziation or their committment to him.

seriously? they questioned his commitment and work ethic which is why they picked VY and then brought in volek. dude still had the opportunity to start and show some team that he was worth a crap but he took the cowards way out and asked for a trade. he could have risen to the challenge, but didn't even want to give it a shot. volek did nothing but show the titans had every right to be concerned about him.

the fact that he has been content to be a backup for the past few years is enough to show the guy doesn't have it. what little "it" he had has surely gone away now that he has just sat on the bench for all these years. he was an insignificant flash in the pan and it's unbelieveable that people still think this guy has something in the tank. what little he had is sure to have evaporated.

[rayzor]

I don't think many people here are advocating that he is the Franchise Guy for the Panthers. Just that he might be one of those capable vets that can hold down the fort and manage the game for a season or two.

i hate the idea of bringing in some old vet to hold the fort for a year or two. it's that kind of thinking that got us stuck with jake for so long.

going after soome old vet to start for a yeaar or two only delays our finding a franchise QB and shows that we don't have the balls to go out there and try to find a legit QB.

only vets that we should be considering at all are those who can come in and compete for the long term job. no one over 30 is going to fit that bill.

any guys that we get over 30 for some overrated role of mentor should have at least had significant and recent starting experience and should be a good role model for the young guys. volek doesn't fit any of that either.

[CatMan72]

i hate the idea of bringing in some old vet to hold the fort for a year or two. it's that kind of thinking that got us stuck with jake for so long.

going after soome old vet to start for a yeaar or two only delays our finding a franchise QB and shows that we don't have the balls to go out there and try to find a legit QB.

only vets that we should be considering at all are those who can come in and compete for the long term job. no one over 30 is going to fit that bill.

any guys that we get over 30 for some overrated role of mentor should have at least had significant and recent starting experience and should be a good role model for the young guys. volek doesn't fit any of that either.

Agree, we need to continue taking our lumps with Clausen so we can figure out whether or not he's "the guy".

I would like to see us bring in some old vet (think Sanchez/Brunell) to serve as a mentor and sounding board for Clausen.

[Urrymonster]

i hate the idea of bringing in some old vet to hold the fort for a year or two. it's that kind of thinking that got us stuck with jake for so long.

going after soome old vet to start for a yeaar or two only delays our finding a franchise QB and shows that we don't have the balls to go out there and try to find a legit QB.

only vets that we should be considering at all are those who can come in and compete for the long term job. no one over 30 is going to fit that bill.

any guys that we get over 30 for some overrated role of mentor should have at least had significant and recent starting experience and should be a good role model for the young guys. volek doesn't fit any of that either.

You can keep saying this, but there aint any good young QBs out there. Would you rather pay much more for someone completely unimpressive simply because he is young?! Instead you can develop a couple of guys whilst an old cheap guy can play for a season.

Believe it or not but this is the path a lot of teams have gone and still do.

[rayzor]

go with clausen or whatever young vet/draft pick we can bring in who wins the competition for starter.

let them grow into the job with the guys they are going to be playing with for years. let him develop a chemstry with the oline and center, his receivers, and the RBs. get the offense developed around his strengths and get him used to the offense. get him on the field so he can learn more about reading defenses.

best way to learn is through experience.

[rayzor]

You can keep saying this, but there aint any good young QBs out there. Would you rather pay much more for someone completely unimpressive simply because he is young?! Instead you can develop a couple of guys whilst an old cheap guy can play for a season.

Believe it or not but this is the path a lot of teams have gone and still do.

you develop guys while they are playing the game.

believe it or not, teams that have been drafting QBs early have been getting them the start earlier the past few years. finding a team that is grooming a QB like the packers did with rodgers has become the exception. why is that happening? because they have found out that you don't need to sit a QB for a couple years in order for him and your team to do well. they are just more willing to take their lumps with the young guy.

only way you should keep the young guy on the bench is if you already have a vet entrenched in the role that the offense is built around. that isn't exactly our situation.

getting some old fart QB and letting him start ahead of the youths isn't going to make us or the young QBs any more ready or better to play the game.

it also isn't in keeping with JR's desire to get the young guys on the field and getting experience. thats what JR wants and that is what largely got fox fired and caused the house cleaning. JR is forward thinking and the coaching staff is going to have to be on board with that.

also, you keep saying that there aren't any good young QBs out there, which may be, but volek sure isn't any better than the young guys. his chance came and went away because he didn't want it bad enough to try.

[CatMan72]

you develop guys while they are playing the game.

believe it or not, teams that have been drafting QBs early have been getting them the start earlier the past few years. finding a team that is grooming a QB like the packers did with rodgers has become the exception. why is that happening? because they have found out that you don't need to sit a QB for a couple years in order for him and your team to do well. they are just more willing to take their lumps with the young guy.

only way you should keep the young guy on the bench is if you already have a vet entrenched in the role that the offense is built around. that isn't exactly our situation.

getting some old fart QB and letting him start ahead of the youths isn't going to make us or the young QBs any more ready or better to play the game.

it also isn't in keeping with JR's desire to get the young guys on the field and getting experience. thats what JR wants and that is what largely got fox fired and caused the house cleaning. JR is forward thinking and the coaching staff is going to have to be on board with that.

also, you keep saying that there aren't any good young QBs out there, which may be, but volek sure isn't any better than the young guys. his chance came and went away because he didn't want it bad enough to try.

It also delays the evaluation as to whether or not the young guy can actually play.

What if the Cowboys had pulled the plug on Aikman after his horrible rookie season for some veteran band-aid?

I realize Aikman showed more promise than Clausen did his rookie season, but Aikman turned out to be an HOF'er and we don't need Clausen to be an HOF'er to win games and even championships.