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Matt Maiocco has us taking Newton # 1 overall


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Went to a coaches clinic over the weekend and jay cullen the jags dl coach said it." if you like a guy,you take him. who cares what the draft experts think." the tape dont lie, this guy upside is threw the damn roof.

if hurney likes him and thinks he is the real deal you have to take him.

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............Cam isn't worth the number one pick simply because Peterson is worth it more than him. Needs come later, this is #1 overall. If we take Cam, we'd better do it by trading down, which I think will be an option despite some huddlers. Cam has upside but it comes with it more risk and for #1 overall avoiding risks to me are worth more to me than chancing it on someone's upsides. Later rounds are perfect for this.

Not if Rivera, OC, scouts, Hurney, etc think Cam is the guy. I am not saying he is or isnt but this "you dont pick him #1 because someone else is a better #1 pick is absurd. If he is the guy, then he is the guy and you pick him. With a rookie cap in place then doing that is even easier. Obviously if trading down can be done, and still get Newton is possible (again assuming he is the guy the want) then you do it. But of course that would come with a risk and they would then have to not want him as much as the extra picks, etc.

I just dont get this mentality that if you are really high on somebody that if he is not "worth" the spot then you pass on him.

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but you can translate a running qb into a mobile qb.it's called COACHING.

It's called "difficult".

There's no tougher task in pro football than developing a quarterback. That's why the failure rate is high. Even guys that were already pocket passers and played in pro-style offenses in college aren't guaranteed to make the successful transition from college to the pros. For guys that play in spread systems where they're never under center or guys that have been taught to make one read and take off, that transition is even harder.

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not saying they could not,but clausen and moore looked confused. clausen would not even attempt to look down field and that is sad.all coaching is difficult scot. when you are trying to mold something from what it used to be to something else is always hard but it can be done.no draft pick is a guarantee.

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Cam for #1 overall? You must be joking. He is easily classified a running qb which as Scott pointed out doesn't mean mobile. Being mobile is more like an advantage rather than a way they play the game. Cam isn't mobile, he isn't planning on eluding DL to get the ball out, he is planning on gaining yardage by running something no QB mentioned consitantley PLANS on doing...

Cam isn't worth the number one pick simply because Peterson is worth it more than him. Needs come later, this is #1 overall. If we take Cam, we'd better do it by trading down, which I think will be an option despite some huddlers. Cam has upside but it comes with it more risk and for #1 overall avoiding risks to me are worth more to me than chancing it on someone's upsides. Later rounds are perfect for this.

You mean the running quarterback who threw as many TDs as Luck did this year (26) Just because he ran for 20 more doesn't make him a running quarterback. He is more than either a running quarterback or a simple pocket passer he is the best of both worlds. With some more work on his fundamentals, he could be one of the guys who redefines the QB position much like Randall Cunningham did 30 years ago.

Cam is not a big risk moreso than taking a quarterback any year. There s always risk with a quarterback. What I find interesting is that we crticized the Panthers all during Fox's tenure for failing to draft a QB high. We now have the best opportunity to get the best Qb in the draft (and yes there are some very good ones) and most of you want to bail on it because it too risky. You guys sound like Fox.

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With two or three years of coaching, some of these guys (Gabbert, Newton, Locker, Mallett) might develop into franchise QBs.

But I'll say before what I've said elsewhere. You simply do not take a QB that's a two to three year project with the number one overall pick unless you already have an established starter in place and you're picking his heir apparent.

That's not our situation at all :nonod:

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You mean the running quarterback who threw as many TDs as Luck did this year (26) Just because he ran for 20 more doesn't make him a running quarterback. He is more than either a running quarterback or a simple pocket passer he is the best of both worlds. With some more work on his fundamentals, he could be one of the guys who redefines the QB position much like Randall Cunningham did 30 years ago.

Cam is not a big risk moreso than taking a quarterback any year. There s always risk with a quarterback. What I find interesting is that we crticized the Panthers all during Fox's tenure for failing to draft a QB high. We now have the best opportunity to get the best Qb in the draft (and yes there are some very good ones) and most of you want to bail on it because it too risky. You guys sound like Fox.

Stats in college are pretty much meaningless, ESPECIALLY when they're coming from a gimmicky offense like Auburns(yes Cam was phenomenal running it, but that stuff doesn't work against NFL defenses).

I still stand by wanting to draft Patrick Peterson because I feel that he(along with Green) are the closest to being "can't miss" as you can get. Newton, Gabbert, Fairley, etc all scare the hell outta me.

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Clausen has played in pro games and has had moments even if he's not great.

Stick any college kid - Newton, Luck, Gabbert, any of 'em - in the starting lineup of a pro game right now and they'd fold like an accordion.

Regarding Pike, I think we still don't know about him. You just can't reliably judge by last season.

they would fold like an accordion b/c they don't know an NFL playbook.

lots of college kids are better than really bad NFL QBs on rosters. they get drafted and it shows when they sign w/ teams. Cam Newton w/ a training camp/preseaosn under his belt imo would be better than probably any QB on our roster and the end of last season heading into a week 1 of 2011.

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