For the elite defense folks, something to ponder

[frash.exe]

whenever two 'elite' defenses meet each other in the SB, one of them is going to lose. so i guess it isn't all about defense is it?

a two time superbowl winning defense just lost to a defense that has never won one

so, just think about that hrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmerrrrederp

[R0CKnR0LLA]

[Dpantherman]

Without the 7 points scored by Nick Collins the Steelers win 25-24. Not to mention these two teams were #1 and #2 in Defense all season. Still need Defense.

[Mr. Scot]

I detect sarcasm.

[Dpantherman]

nothing new.

[Swarly]

Without the 7 points scored by Nick Collins the Steelers win 25-24. Not to mention these two teams were #1 and #2 in Defense all season. Still need Defense.

and without like a hundred drops by Packer receivers the Packers win by 20 points. yeah that's exaggerating but I can think of one perfect pass that was a sure TD if it was caught.

agreed though without defense neither of those teams would have even made the SB. and just thought I'd mention, Big Ben was absolutely worthless UNTIL Charles Woodson was injured, after that is when the Steelers were able to score.

[Dpantherman]

at the end of the day you need a damn good team to win. its really that simple

[R0CKnR0LLA]

waits for the "for all you elite long snapper folks..." thread

[Dpantherman]

^^thanks alot

[GritsRgreat]

needs a good kicker too...

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

How about a similar "elite fullback" thread for all the folks who still can't get over letting Brad Hoover go?

[R0CKnR0LLA]

if only we had a better kickoff specialist. rhys lloyd was great in 2008 and we went 12-4 but he's really fallen off and look where we're at. you need a complete team guys, not just a great offense, elite QB and top notch defense. can't ignore the kickoff specialist!

[Baschski]

Wtf kind of horrid reasoning skill is that? "When two elite defenses play each other...one of them is going to lose."

What's your point? That you need an elite offense? So...when two elite offenses play each other, doesn't one of them have to lose, too?

Am I missing something or were you actually attempting to make one of the worst threads ever?

[Jangler]

Ties are possible?