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For the Elite QB folks, something to ponder.

Highlandfire

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CatMan72 Enthusiast

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Who considers Ben an elite QB?

Is it the championships that makes Ben elite? Does that mean Marino was not elite?

Don't forget that Ben earned one of those rings while having the worst QB rating in the history of SB winning QB's.

Swap Manning out for Big Ben on the Colts and tell me how well he does?

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Lords0fPain Newbie

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Beat me to it, I would not consider Ben "elite"...he is very good, but not "elite". NFL network talked about that, GB wants "Championship QB", while Pits wants a QB to make a few plays when needed. Translation, GB wants a QB that is a game CHANGER, while the Steelers want a game MANAGER, which Ben does well. Packers like to pass, Steelers like to run.

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theyhateme45 Newbie

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Bottom line most fans know nothing about football. Those of us who coach it, well we just try to educate and know its futile.

So lets pick a QB, and then another and then another in this draft, because that is what would work in Madden right? Even though there is no real first round talent in this draft, ALL of them are 3+ year projects, we MUST get a QB DAMN IT!

Show me a picture or proof that you are a real legitimate Football coach and I will pay you.

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thefuzz Mentor

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When has Ben Roethlisberger ever been considered elite by anyone that doesn't worship Super Bowl rings.

There are 5 elite QB's in the league. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers. That's it.

Any one of those five could be interchanged with the other and their teams would still win, and the O's would play great.

Big Ben could not go to any of their teams and do well.

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When has Ben Roethlisberger ever been considered elite by anyone that doesn't worship Super Bowl rings.

There are 5 elite QB's in the league. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers. That's it.

Any one of those five could be interchanged with the other and their teams would still win, and the O's would play great.

Big Ben could not go to any of their teams and do well.

This damnit. How come when I make threads relating to things like this, only the idiots read it. Everyone talks about getting elite QBs like they are growing on trees. Those are the only 5 in the league (you could include Vick if he keeps it up) and the rest rely heavily on their teams to prop them up and make the look better than they are.

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rayzor Grand Master

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using last year's QBs for a better comparison...two elites and one of them lost...still, two elite QBs went to the superbowl. is the OP trying to say it doesn't matter if you have an elite or even a great QB? that's just plain stupid.

where were the teams that had the worst QBs in the league? you know, the ones whose fans keep on saying that all you need is a serviceable QB?

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TheRealDeal Newbie

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oh yea, what about those fans that say you should have a great run game and that as long as you have that you are good? how many times did the packers run?

Not taking anything away from the Packers, but they didn't put together many drives. They scored 21 points off turnovers and 7 of those were directly a result of the defense. Their offense didn't look that great by any means and were dominated in every facet of the game except for turnovers.

You can try and put it on A Rod's arm all you want and it's deserved but it doesn't tell the story at all. It's the story the media wants you to buy.

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