Chris Simms: Jalon Walker is the most overrated player in the draft

[Icege]

7 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

This makes literally zero sense.

The most popular comparison for T-Mac is Mike Evans.

AJ Green is not going to be a HOFer while Evans is already a HOF lock and very well might end up a first ballot guy with a few more good years.

Either way, you're not comparing a player's career trajectory, just their style of play and what they do well, and to me, I've just always seen Green when watching T-Mac

I was riding with the Mike Evans comp as well up until the combine and T-Mac came in with arms nearly 4" shorter than Evans'

Play style I can see the comp still tho, esp given how both were forced into going for a ton of contested balls in college.

[ProcessBlue2]

Hes overrated but Sanders is the most overrated in the draft. 
 

Morgan is using it as a smoke screen. I actually think they take Nick Emmanwori after trading down in the 1st

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 hours ago, Icege said:

I was riding with the Mike Evans comp as well up until the combine and T-Mac came in with arms nearly 4" shorter than Evans'

Play style I can see the comp still tho, esp given how both were forced into going for a ton of contested balls in college.

Is that total wingspan?  In my head its like each arm is 4 inches shorter, which seems insane.  Or Evans is god tier on the ape index.

[tukafan21]

8 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

And you've always seen him through Rose coloured glasses 

Not true at all, I know his faults and things he has to work on, but I've seen enough of him to know he's still going to be an amazing player in the NFL

But whether I do or not has no bearing on your post making absolutely no sense.  You have no issue with most NFL experts comparing him to Mike Evans, but I compare him to AJ Green, a worse player, and you think it's an absurd comp that would make him the #1 pick in the draft if so.

It's okay to just say you said something dumb, nobody will blame you.

[kass]

2 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Is that total wingspan?  In my head its like each arm is 4 inches shorter, which seems insane.  Or Evans is god tier on the ape index.

It is measured from shoulder to fingertip, so not wingspan. Arm length can differ a lot. I know two people who both are, about 5-6 / 5-7 (173cm) and their differences is ~20cm, that's about 8 inches... 

[jfra78]

Tmacs biggest problem is his lack of physicality.   To be 6'5 220 and play so soft doesn't add up.  Might as well be 5'9 180

[Tr3ach]

16 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

I love when people go after his YAC ability as if he wasn't 5th in the Big 12 this past season in YAC, because he was.

And you can say his style of YAC doesn't mesh with this type of game, but that on its face is just nonsense, because if he's good enough to be 5th in a major conference, it clearly meshes well with his game.

The reason you say it doesn't, is because you think all he is good at is making contested catches because of his radius, but because you haven't watched enough of his full tape, you don't realize that he's consistently used in the screen and short slant game to get the ball in his hands because he actually is a solid YAC guy because he's surprisingly agile for a player of his size.  

No, he's no Tyreek, but he has more than enough wiggle to his game that you combine it with everything he does at an elite level because of his size, and it makes for a guy who is going to be a consistent 1k yard and 10+ TD player.  He can be the true outside #1 that we need, but he's also versatile enough to be moved into the slot at times to scheme the ball into his hands against smaller nickel corners or slower linebackers.

He's a slightly less physical Mike Evans but with more agility, my comp was always AJ Green.  He's going to be an elite #1 WR in this league for the next decade, if he's there and we pass on him to trade down for another WR, we will regret it for a long time.

You're wrong, I don't think he's that great at making contested catches.  I think he is ok at making contested catches.

[tukafan21]

22 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Tmacs biggest problem is his lack of physicality.   To be 6'5 220 and play so soft doesn't add up.  Might as well be 5'9 180

 

11 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

You're wrong, I don't think he's that great at making contested catches.  I think he is ok at making contested catches.

lolz

you people kill me with some of these takes, just straight up comical.

[jfra78]

9 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

 

lolz

you people kill me with some of these takes, just straight up comical.

You can lolz and make 5 paragraph posts all you want.  Tmac is soft, gets bullied at the line of scrimmage, forced out of bounds and gives up when a corner is physical. 

[Tr3ach]

5 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

 

lolz

you people kill me with some of these takes, just straight up comical.

His play style fits a small quick receiver.  He's better in short and intermediate routes in space, but he lacks the acceleration to be great at it in the NFL and he's not really a deep ball or jump ball guy.   On tape his best assets are small receiver type things.  If we draft him then I will cheer for him and for my opinion to be wrong just like I'm still hoping I was wrong about xl but so far he has proven me right.