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Fuck drafting to build we need to win NAO!

frash.exe

By frash.exe,
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A couple reasons why nobody should buy this retarded logic

1. This isn't Major League Baseball. You don't just plug every hole you have in one year and win a championship, and even then, you need a contending team to start with, not a 2-14 league doormat. That's not the way the NFL works. Case in point. In 2007 the Pats went buck wild in free agency after going to the AFC Championship with Quintus Pfuffnick at WR. They traded for Welker, picked up Stallworth, they signed Adalius Thomas, and they went BPA with Meriweather at 24 in the first round. It was the Patriots on a FA shopping spree, so basically it was a weeks long media orgy. Anyway, a year later it got them further by merely one game and they still couldn't outscore a less talented Giants offense. Even their AFC Championship game they couldn't even dominate a Chargers team with Rivers sporting a freshly torn ACL and LT getting taken out early.

2. Expanding on no.1's point, a lot of it has to do with there being 22 different starters on the field on just offense and defense. That is a lot of spots compared to the MLB (8 batters in NL, 9 in AL (8 batters including DH) + a very good overall rotation of 3-4 unique pitchers) and much more compared to the NBA (5 starters + 3-4 good bench players). ...nobody watches hockey. Plus raw talent is much less emphasized in the NFL due to schemes and strategy. The NFL is more like a chess game than any other sport. A coach that can think 3-4 plays ahead of his opponent is more invaluable than the greatest most talented defensive line you can think of. Just ask the 2010 Giants. All they've done since 2007 is stack their defensive line and have nothing more to show for it.

3. It leads to people thinking you can get to a championship game with Billy Volek starting at QB. Unless you run a WCO your offense is only going to run right with consistency at QB. Stop gaps only get you to playoff berths at best and then right back to square one when they retire because they were already thinking about it when you signed them. The best way we can help this offense is by getting weapons or a better young QB.

So enough with this stupid poo about trading for Carson Palmer so he can get another concussion and miss 12 games and use every single other resource we have to fix the interior line when A. It's not as extremely bad to begin with, B. They're going to have much more blitzing help next year, and C. We've got a bigger mess to fix that's called "the passing game".

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eh? people are suggesting to trade most of the draft?

I heard trying to trade back a few spots with the Bungals to grab him, that was it. didn't know people had offered more than that.

Carson Palmer would directly impact the passing game in a way no rookie drafted this year possibly could, imo.

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eh? people are suggesting to trade most of the draft?

I heard trying to trade back a few spots with the Bungals to grab him, that was it. didn't know people had offered more than that.

Carson Palmer would directly impact the passing game in a way no rookie drafted this year possibly could, imo.

A) The bengals are not going to trade their franchise QB to move up 3 spots

B) he's injury prone

C) he's overrated

D) if he's already thinking retirement, i don't want him at all

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A) The bengals are not going to trade their franchise QB to move up 3 spots

B) he's injury prone

C) he's overrated

D) if he's already thinking retirement, i don't want him at all

A has nothing to do with it. You're saying people shouldn't want to trade the entire draft for him. I'm saying not many of us who want him think we should. :P We're basically in agreement, but I think if we can get him easily I'd take him, I Just don't think we can at all.

He's thinking of retirement because he hates the Bengals that much. He doesn't want to retire, he just hates it there.

On that note, I have absolutely no doubt he wants to go some place other than here, too :P

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ok mav what if i edit that part out JUST FOR YOU

i already edited my post to reflect I mostly agree with you ;P

just giving you a hard time for no particular reason... I just think higher of Palmer than you do but don't think he's worth paying much for.

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Green Bay had the luxury to draft Rodgers in the first round and sit him because they had Brett favre as the starter. Unfortunately we don't. We need a free agent who can be a starter while we work with the young guys to get them ready to take over. Arizona's mistake was not having someone ready when Warner retired. Whether it is Clausen or someone else we groom as the future starter, we need an upgrade if we don't want to struggle for a year or two. Somehow I don't think Rivera is going to take the chance that we struggle again on offense this year. Richardson seemed emphatic that fixing this offense was his top priority.

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