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Panthers get Fred Graves (Titans) as WR coach

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mav1234 Grand Master

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This guy coached Smitty in college.

I'm excited we're giving him a chance but I don't expect miracles out of him or anything.

Actually, this is more likely to be a 'nail in the coffin' of that particular story.

Graves was part of a staff that urged Titans owner Bud Adams to dump Young in favor of coach Jeff Fisher.

Nonsense, nobody hated Vince Young but Jeff Fisher. Begone with your rhetoric! :rolleyes:

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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common knowledge now that some of the players wanted him gone too.

Per SI's Don Banks, more than some...

According to one team source, Young had about four or five players in the Titans locker room who remained loyal to him and took his side in his highly publicized showdown with Fisher. The rest believed the team needed to cut ties with Young, and if it hadn't, there would have resulted in a line of players at Reinfeldt's door requesting an offseason trade.

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A source told me the vast majority of Titans players had grown frustrated with Young's repeated maturity issues, and he still hadn't progressed to the point where he could seamlessly call plays in the huddle, or commit himself to the work and preparation required of an NFL starting quarterback. Adams was made aware of how widespread the rest of the locker room felt hamstrung and held back by Young's lack of development.

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"The fact that he still has a hard time calling plays in the huddle, that's a problem for us," a Titans source said. "There's not indifference here about Vince. There's some serious animosity. A lot of guys would want out of here if he came back. Everyone knows he's the guy who's supposed to drive the car, he's supposed to be our leader. But he doesn't do the things you have to have your quarterback do. Guys can't trust him. Even after all this time. It had to start with not having No. 10 back here."

Inside the NFL

So it turns out it wasn't just the coaches that wanted him out.

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Gantt made a pretty good point on Twitter.

Trying to hire Proehl could also be considered as a nod to Smith, arguably just as much as Graves.

Yup, right now it looks like we're looking for good WR coaches that would also please Smitty (assuming he had a good relationship with Graves?)

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