In This Thread I Talk Rationally About Drafting A QB #1 Overall.

[SmootsDaddy89]

The main purpose of this thread is to dispel one of the more commonly-held beliefs about this year's draft class:

"There are no quarterbacks worth the #1 overall pick in the draft."

Well, if you mean that there are about 20 players who would be drafted before the best QB in the draft this year, you're just completely and totally wrong. Guys like Gabbert and Newton may not be Luck, but they both have the tools and potential to be as good or better than him, and some team will take one or both in the top 10.

The only other possible meaning is you believe that there's AT LEAST one player better than him, and we should draft whoever that person is because he's BPA!!!! Also I don't like any of the other QBs in this draft because Luck stomped on my erection, so I'm gonna be irrational!!!11

Well, this is probably true, but I don't think people understand what BPA actually entails, they just assume Hurney and Rivera will rank every single prospect 1-400 and take whoever is highest on their list whenever they pick.

In case you didn't know already, this is complete horsepoo. The better acronym for what the Panthers do is BPAWFAN - Best Player Available Who Fits A Need.

Unless there's a guy available when you pick who is head and shoulders above everyone else, you choose from about 5-10 similarly-ranked players, and pick the one who best fills an immediate or near future need. (This is why we took Kalil a year after we paid Hartwig to sit on IR for us, because we knew he was a useless sack of John Fox.) Unfortunately for us, the only guy who would be way above all other players in this draft decided to go back to school because he couldn't abandon his WoW guild yet.

This is why if, among a pool of seven players, we liked Harry Johnson, MLB from Florida State slightly more, we probably still would take someone else, because drafting another MLB would be completely asinine, even if we don't re-sign Davis. Unless you believe that JR is not going to re-sign Beason because he's evil and will never give big contracts to any of our players again so he can roll around in his hardees speedo in all the money he saves. (btw I know we drafted Connor in the 3rd round in 2008, but again, it was the 3rd round, and he WAS head and shoulders above everyone else left on the board. Same with Pike last year. Well actually he sucks but anyway we thought he didn't so there.)

We probably already have an idea of who will be in our small group of considered players, and like it or not, there's at LEAST one QB there, Because Hurney has flat-out stated that QB is still a huge need, even if we haven't given up on Clausen yet. AJ Green PROBABLY doesn't get drafted, because there are bigger needs on the team. Same for Bowers. I think it will come down to Fairley, Peterson, and unnamed QB, whomever they like more between Gabbert and Newton. And even Peterson could get bumped depending on how big of a man crush Rivera gets for Capn'/we sign Marshall.

So basically what I'm saying is, depending on how Rivera feels about Clausen, don't be surprised if we announce a QB as our 1st pick in April. Reminder that no one thought we were going to draft a QB with our first pick last year, and that was when we actually thought Matt Moore had an iota of talent. This year, it's pretty clear that QB is still a need. I'll get into why taking Newton #1 overall isn't necessarily a horrible thing UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES later.

[SmootsDaddy89]

Also in before tldr.

[Kevin Greene]

I'd feel a lot better about QB if we could drop down a few slots and grab a couple good picks before making that move.

[SmootsDaddy89]

I'd feel a lot better about QB if we could drop down a few slots and grab a couple good picks before making that move.

I think everyone would, but going back to Raging Bull's thread, I don't see it happening. I'll be ecstatic if it does though. Even trading down one spot would net us Denver's 2nd rounder.

[jayflip]

Most well informed thread I've ever read that included the stomping of erections.

[Jackofalltrades]

Allow me to summarize: There are no QB's worth the 1st pick.

[Dpantherman]

yea, i can't wait until April either, its taking too long.

[Kevin Greene]

I think everyone would, but going back to Raging Bull's thread, I don't see it happening. I'll be ecstatic if it does though. Even trading down one spot would net us Denver's 2nd rounder.

I know, I know. But if we made the QB move and he goes bust, we're screwed for eons.

Well not really, next year we'd just go Andrew Luck.

But a more of a sure bet player might be our best play if we can't trade down.

Trading down and more picks gives us the luxury of taking a QB, trading away our second for Armanti Edwards and being #1 overall doesn't.

[mav1234]

I don't know why people would "feel better" about taking a QB below #1 and not #1. Unless you're talking about trading way back, like into the mid-end of the first, you're better off taking who you think is the best QB in the draft if that is your intention... because chances are unless you think it's Ricky Stanzi or something, they'll be gone by the time you pick again.

If you're sold on a QB enough to take him in the first, i think you really ahve to consider taking him #1... especially if there's a payscale, which I think there will be.

[jtm]

The words rational and #1 pick overall can't go in the same sentence.

[mav1234]

As an aside, where is the "Luck staying in school for WoW" coming from? I've heard it a few times, just curious.

[jtnc]

yea, i can't wait until April either, its taking too long.

I'm throwing a huge party on Draft night. It's like the Superbowl.

:party:

[SmootsDaddy89]

Even if we got another early second-round pick, I'd still be pissed because we could have had TWO early picks in the second round. Hurney ultimately failed hard on that trade.

[SmootsDaddy89]

As an aside, where is the "Luck staying in school for WoW" coming from? I've heard it a few times, just curious.

It's probably just from me. He just seems like he plays it. It's probably not even accurate though.