I keep hearing "TRADE DOWN! TRADE DOWN!"

[Mr. Scot]

i don't believe that. how often does a non QB #1 pick flop?

The name "Big Daddy' comes to mind. Also Courtney Brown and Ki-Jana Carter. And although he wasn't a "flop", Keyshawn Johnson wasn't exactly a legend either.

It happens.

[BBQ&Beer]

I'd like to see that :sosp:

I wouldn't even be mad... That would be amazing....

[mav1234]

i don't believe that. how often does a non QB #1 pick flop?

I think that's too narrow a view on it, especially in a draft without a clear standout. If you extend the scope to more picks, you'll find that QB flops just as much as everything else early. Someone did a breakdown of it but I don't have it bookmarked.

[BBQ&Beer]

I look at it like this, we should be in the Patriots' ear from now til the day after the draft.

We swap our 1st for their 17th, (Green should be good for at least 1 more Super Bowl) and get both of their 2nd rounders. That's the best deal I can see at the moment.

(& who knows? Maybe Hurney could have a signature day & get their 28th pick too.)

Yeah it's a pie-in-the-sky dream but it's the only one I see happening.

ETA: Having said that, there's a reason I'm an actor & not an NFL Excec.

[chef17]

I look at it like this, we should be in the Patriots' ear from now til the day after the draft.

We swap our 1st for their 17th, (Green should be good for at least 1 more Super Bowl) and get both of their 2nd rounders. That's the best deal I can see at the moment.

(& who knows? Maybe Hurney could have a signature day & get their 28th pick too.)

Yeah it's a pie-in-the-sky dream but it's the only one I see happening.

ETA: Having said that, there's a reason I'm an actor & not an NFL Excec.

You honestly see that happening?

[Snake]

like nobody realizes it's a good idea. first of all, i will concede that it does work to our advantage if we can move down, accumulate some more picks, no doubt it's a good idea, but to think of it as a real possibility (like, something substantial, just because there's a 1 in a million chance someone comes to us with an offer does not make it a real possibility) to the point where it's like we let a good opportunity slip away is.

once in the last ten years someone traded up to the no.1 pick (Falcons, Michael Vick) and that was for a player with such a unique skill set and talent, it took that much to get the Falcons to move up.

This draft has nobody like that, there's really no incentive for someone to give up an easter basket of picks and players for any of top prospects. There aren't any kind of prospects with that kind of attraction. First of all in this day and age of the NFL only a QB could have that power, and if there was one it would be a better idea to sit tight and make that pick instead of trading it away.

In this situation, yea, it is a good idea if we can trade down, but for the concept to have so much support that it suggests the ball's in our court for a trade like that and we can move if we want to is not a realistic perspective

God stop making so much sense. You know we hate that kind of thinking around here.

[BBQ&Beer]

You honestly see that happening?

Oh its highly unlikely but I can see it. The pats are a deep threat away from the super bowl.

Maybe a better way to put it is the Pats are the only ones I can see truly extending for a single player in the draft. The much more likely scenario is they give us the 17th & a 2nd.

[Makish]

without the rookie cap theirs no possibility of us trading down, no team will give 50 mil bonus for a defensive player

[Davidson Deac II]

i don't believe that. how often does a non QB #1 pick flop?

I am not sure if our pick will be a complete flop. But looking back, we might end up thinking that whomever we picked was not worth a number one. In our favor though, most of the last ten non qb picks have went on to have a successful nfl career. Only Steve Emtman, Ki-Jana Carter and Courtney Brown off of this list would be considered flops.

Aundray Bruce, LB, Auburn

Russell Maryland, DT, Miami-FL

Steve Emtman, DT, Washington

Dan Wilkinson, DT, Ohio State

Ki-Jana Carter, RB, Penn State

Keyshawn Johnson, WR, USC

Orlando Pace, OT, Ohio State

Courtney Brown, DE, Penn State

Mario Williams, DE North Carolina State

Miami Jake Long, OT Miami

[KSpan]

This draft has nobody like that, there's really no incentive for someone to give up an easter basket of picks and players for any of top prospects. There aren't any kind of prospects with that kind of attraction.

I don't think it would take a ton of picks to sway the FO to do this if they're not sold on any particular player. Given this team's ability to find talent in the middle and late rounds and the likely confidence this staff will have in their ability to teach, I'd speculate that staying in top 10 (preferably 5) and picking up a 2nd/high 3rd and possibly something in the later rounds would do it. We aren't the only ones that realize the lack of separation at the top of the first round

[riddel]

you're all sons of a bitch.

I'm no son of a female dog.....I'm a bastard......and Richardson said very clearly he will use the pick......although Luck hadn't bailed on us yet.....but....Richardson tends to be pretty predictable.....so....I'd say we're stuck with it.

[Happy Panther]

A trade for our #1 could easily happen. Likely on draft day.

We just wouldn't get much for it.

[o803oVaDeR]

If the Pats call about trading anything, I would hang up on them! No matter how good the deal sounds, trust me, you are getting screwed.

[monstercat]

I understand Raging Bull's point.

You mark my words, if Hurney can't trade down, somebody here will start a thread calling him an idiot for it. Nevermind the reality that it takes two to trade and that Hurney can't just snap his fingers and make some other team do his bidding.