Cam Newton Public Workout

[TheRealDeal]

so what was newton doing in college? he didnt throw the ball? he didnt read at least half the field? he may not have done any drop backs from under center, but you act like hes retarded and cant learn these things. he is even working now with a personal tutor to help him. that shows that he has the work ethic to get it done. the training wont stop there either he will have coaches in the nfl too.

Never said he can't learn, just that he has to and it's harder than you guys think. He was not reading half the field. Many of his throws were behind the line of scrimmage as an extension of the run game. I don't think he's ever had to take a 5 step drop while keeping his eyes down field and read.

Again, working out pre draft doesn't show that he has great work ethic. It could just be that he wants to get paid. He'd be very dumb to not work out before the draft but like it's been talked about before, 99% of players that are in consideration of being drafted are working out right now, not a big deal.

[teeray]

actually you could very well say the same thing about gabbert or really any QB talked about going in the first round this year.

Or any year. Luck has to learn those things whenever he comes out. He isn't a guarantee either.

[g5jamz]

btw...The Golden Calf of Bristol DID participate at the combine. Just not all events.

http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2010/03/2010-nfl-combine-results-tim-The Golden Calf of Bristol.html

Bench and throwing drills he skipped. Can't remember exactly why, but he did everything else.

[TheRealDeal]

Several people talked about his footwork and NO ONE thought he was the best QB in the draft. Eli was the clear number one QB that year.

Which is funny because several people think cam is the best QB in this years draft so he is already ahead of Ben in a lot of ways.

LOL even if "several" people think that, I haven't seen one well respected analyst or expert say he is the head of the class.

EVEN IF HE IS, it's like being the tallest midget since this could be one of the worst QB classes in recent memory.

Ben came from a smaller school and had to go up against a Manning and a guy that was just as physically gifted as he was. No one in this class could hold a flame to Eli or Rivers coming out (Even though I'm not an Eli fan)

[TheRealDeal]

actually you could very well say the same thing about gabbert or really any QB talked about going in the first round this year.

Which is why you stay away from them all

[jarhead]

I am interested in the media spin on Cam Newton that will rev up as we approach the combine.He is a media darling.

I am not a great one to evaluate qb talent but the guy looks pretty good to me.it seems that people either love him or hate him.I thought it was interesting that Moose thought we should draft number 1 him on the Moose and Frank show.Others say is not NFL ready .....who the hell knows and why?

[carolinanimal]

i think alot of peoples attitudes towards qbs is based off the idea that we would be contenders next year with a good qb. folks, we are going to suck for a couple of years. we are basically rebuilding, have a completely new staff in place. why do we have to have someone who can start now? why wouldnt we take someone with great potential and polish him up some? it not like we are going to the playoffs anytime soon. either gabbert or newton,locker, mallet, take your pick. if we feel they can be that guy why wouldnt you take them? a dt is not going to get us back where we want to be. qbs change the whole outlook of franchises for good or bad. that is what we need. do it now while our team is in flux already so they can work together to establish something.

[TheRealDeal]

i think alot of peoples attitudes towards qbs is based off the idea that we would be contenders next year with a good qb. folks, we are going to suck for a couple of years. we are basically rebuilding, have a completely new staff in place. why do we have to have someone who can start now? why wouldnt we take someone with great potential and polish him up some? it not like we are going to the playoffs anytime soon. either gabbert or newton,locker, mallet, take your pick. if we feel they can be that guy why wouldnt you take them? a dt is not going to get us back where we want to be. qbs change the whole outlook of franchises for good or bad. that is what we need. do it now while our team is in flux already so they can work together to establish something.

We aren't as far away as you think.

[teeray]

LOL even if "several" people think that, I haven't seen one well respected analyst or expert say he is the head of the class.

EVEN IF HE IS, it's like being the tallest midget since this could be one of the worst QB classes in recent memory.

Ben came from a smaller school and had to go up against a Manning and a guy that was just as physically gifted as he was. No one in this class could hold a flame to Eli or Rivers coming out (Even though I'm not an Eli fan)

These are actually NFL scouts and GM's saying that and all the analysts have said his upside is astronomical.

People were not crazy about that draft either because after Eli (who wasn't a sure fire QB by any means) then you had a guy with a funky throwing motion and didn't have great arm strenght, and then Big Ben.

That draft as far as QB's at the time was very similar to this draft in that regard. Turns out all of these really productive though fundamentally flawed QB's turned out pretty good.

[rayzor]

Or any year. Luck has to learn those things whenever he comes out. He isn't a guarantee either.

not really true. he is pretty advanced in all aspects compared to everyone else and knows most of those things thanks to his dad's influence as well as having harbaugh coaching him and that offense he played in. also, there is quite often QBs who come out who are pretty prepared for the pro game, having come from more of a pro offense and/or having the ability to read defenses and do multiple reads.

this year is just horrible with the choices. worst QB class in many years. sad thing for a lot of teams is that there are so many teams needing a QB and a few of them might be dumb enough to reach for them. i just hope we aren't in that number.

still, luck is as close to a guarantee as you will ever find as far as becoming a successful QB. next year also has another good candidate in matt barkley from USC. he's my other choice if we can't get luck and don't have the QB situation squared away.

[teeray]

These are actually NFL scouts and GM's saying that and all the analysts have said his upside is astronomical.

People were not crazy about that draft either because after Eli (who wasn't a sure fire QB by any means) then you had a guy with a funky throwing motion and didn't have great arm strenght, and then Big Ben.

That draft as far as QB's at the time was very similar to this draft in that regard. Turns out all of these really productive though fundamentally flawed QB's turned out pretty good.

I distinctly remember "analysts" saying some of the things you are saying in regards to that QB class.

[blackcatgrowl]

We aren't as far away as you think.

It's frustrating that I agree with you sometimes TRD. I hate we can't see eye to eye on Cam.

We really are only few positions, on offense, from having a play off contending team. And MAYBE one or two on D. Maybe...

QB is one of them. In fact, it's the biggest of them.

[TheRealDeal]

I distinctly remember "analysts" saying some of the things you are saying in regards to that QB class.

Did you just quote yourself? and Respond to it with "you"?

[koolkatluke]

Or any year. Luck has to learn those things whenever he comes out. He isn't a guarantee either.

More of a guarantee then Cam. He has ran a pro style offense. Cam has 2 learn too do that.

Plain and simple does Cam start day one?