Cam Newton Public Workout

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

I thought you were stating that as fact but if that's your opinion than I fully respect it.

Also, not everyone was as high on Clausen as it's been portrayed on here.

True enough. Clausen's agent paid Mel Kiper to inflate his rating. What a joke.

[mav1234]

True enough. Clausen's agent paid Mel Kiper to inflate his rating. What a joke.

yup, and even the other scouts inc people disagreed with Kiper about what his level of talent was.

[Mr. Scot]

yup, and even the other scouts inc people disagreed with Kiper about what his level of talent was.

From what I've read, pro scouts won't be allowed at this workout, only media.

That's a bad decision :nonod:

[mav1234]

From what I've read, pro scouts won't be allowed at this workout, only media.

That's a bad decision :nonod:

That seems like a stupid idea on his part and could possibly actually hurt him since the scouts ARE going to get footage anyway, so... Where'd you hear that?

[Snake]

From what I've read, pro scouts won't be allowed at this workout, only media.

That's a bad decision :nonod:

That's really odd. Idk why they would do that.

[Mr. Scot]

That's really odd. Idk why they would do that.

Media would be less likely to be critical since they're not trained scouts. That's the only reason I can think of.

Not a good way to endear yourself to NFL teams though.

[mav1234]

But why bother if it isn't to improve your draft stock?

[Mr. Scot]

But why bother if it isn't to improve your draft stock?

Rob Rang from CBS is asking the same question: Newton taking unnecessary risk with media workout

Excerpts...

Auburn quarterback Cam Newton might be able to impress the media during a one-hour workout he's scheduled for February 10 at Cathedral High in Del Mar, California, but will it do any good?

Despite winning the Heisman Trophy and BCS Championship, there are plenty of questions about the Auburn junior's ability to translate his success into the NFL. The spread-option offense he ran under Gus Malzahn's direction won't cut in the NFL. He'll need to be able to read defenses quicker, be more accurate with a greater variety of passes and do both while dropping back from center -- something he was rarely asked to do with the Tigers.

I don't doubt Newton's talent as a quarterback, nor Whitfield's talent as a coach. I do question Cam Newton, Sr.'s decision to have this media-only workout in the first place.

And let's be clear, this is a media-only event. NFL scouts are forbidden to attend a prospect's workout of this nature in any other setting than the Combine, the player's hometown or his university.

The purpose of the workout, Whitfield told Jim Corbett of USA Today is to "differentiate [Newton] from Vince Young and JaMarcus Russell " and to determine if Newton should workout at the Combine or wait for Auburn's Pro Day in March.

Taking an optimistic approach, let's assume Newton blows us all away with his workout for a moment.

Doesn't he run the risk that NFL teams will be turned off by what appears to be an attempt to upstage the NFL and its Combine?

And to do what? Create some buzz? There isn't a more famous (rapidly becoming infamous) collegiate player in the country.

And, what if Newton struggles - or is even inaccurately portrayed by some as having struggled -- in his workout? Will he elect not to workout for scouts at the Combine, thereby opening himself up to questions about his competitive fire?

I asked a handful of scouts about this workout. All were mystified as to what gains could be made with what one front officie executive termed a "publicity stunt."

One high level scout put it this way:

"The Newtons would be best to realize they aren't in college anymore. Regardless of how good he looks for [the media], there isn't going to be a bidding war for him. We're not recruiting him. They could wind up turning more people against them than for them with this [workout]."

[mav1234]

That's disturbing, because: 1) Scouts will find out how he did either way and will have detailed writeups of his footwork etc if not actual footage no matter who they try to block, 2) NFL teams aren't going to be going gaga over someone who has a media workout, 3) if he's not showing off for NFL teams what exactly is he showing off for?

Really weird.

[monstercat]

From what I've read, pro scouts won't be allowed at this workout, only media.

That's a bad decision :nonod:

Even if that's true, y'all do realize that the media owns video cameras, right? The scouts will see the workout one way or the other and they will watch him workout probably two more times after this one. Nobody is getting ripped off here.

[TheRealDeal]

From what I've read, pro scouts won't be allowed at this workout, only media.

That's a bad decision :nonod:

To be fair his father is leading him and he doesn't have a record of making any good decisions for his son, only ones that make him more money. This will blow up in his face, like LeBron and "The Decision" it will be seen as very selfish.

That seems like a stupid idea on his part and could possibly actually hurt him since the scouts ARE going to get footage anyway, so... Where'd you hear that?

It was in the original article on ESPN as well. He knows the media will be impressed that he can actually take three steps backwards without falling down and the scouts will look to the quickness, depth, and efficiency of his drops which probably won't be adequate at this time.

Media would be less likely to be critical since they're not trained scouts. That's the only reason I can think of.

Not a good way to endear yourself to NFL teams though.

This. Like that article said, some execs are already calling it a publicity stunt and looks like he's trying to upstage the NFL. There will be no bidding war for Cam no matter how hard his dad tries. I feel bad for whatever team drafts him unless there is a "No contact" order with his father during negotiating time.

[TheRealDeal]

That's disturbing, because: 1) Scouts will find out how he did either way and will have detailed writeups of his footwork etc if not actual footage no matter who they try to block, 2) NFL teams aren't going to be going gaga over someone who has a media workout, 3) if he's not showing off for NFL teams what exactly is he showing off for?

Really weird.

You'll have a write up too, don't worry.

[mav1234]

Even if that's true, y'all do realize that the media owns video cameras, right? The scouts will see the workout one way or the other and they will watch him workout probably two more times after this one. Nobody is getting ripped off here.

There is that possibility. There is also the possibility they don't allow video cameras or something as some workouts have in the past.

Does anyone know the rules here? Is it against the rules for scouts to go to these things since they aren't at one of the official viewing sites for him or something maybe, and that's why scouts can't go?

EDIT: CBS article says it is, so maybe it's just a bad decision as to locale and they'll let film get out to everyone anyway, just wanted to have it there since he is still working there... trying to look at this not negatively, heh. I'm too optimistic about people I think.

[Mr. Scot]

There is that possibility. There is also the possibility they don't allow video cameras or something as some workouts have in the past.

Does anyone know the rules here? Is it against the rules for scouts to go to these things since they aren't at one of the official viewing sites for him or something maybe, and that's why scouts can't go?

EDIT: CBS article says it is, so maybe it's just a bad decision as to locale and they'll let film get out to everyone anyway, just wanted to have it there since he is still working there... trying to look at this not negatively, heh. I'm too optimistic about people I think.

Checked it out. The NFL doesn't allow scouts to go to workouts other than the combine and pro days.

The rationale is that they want to see players working out under similar conditions. What they don't want is players having private workouts set up with favorable conditions that can make them look better than they otherwise might.

(essentially, the rules are meant to discourage what Cecil Newton is doing)

Even if that's true, y'all do realize that the media owns video cameras, right? The scouts will see the workout one way or the other and they will watch him workout probably two more times after this one. Nobody is getting ripped off here.

One of the stated purposes of the workout is to determine whether or not Newton will attend the Scouting Combine or the Auburn pro Day.

In other words, if the Newtons are satisfied with the results here, they may decline to do anything else.