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LifeisaGarden

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not sure how to take that...let me explain...

we have the same issue with Canadian natives that even many of their own people argue. They have all sorts of treaty rights and the government pays them a very large sum on a monthly basis because apparently the white man took away their land all those years ago. The unemployment rate on those reserves is through the roof...you can sit on your ass and do nothing and collect your monthly check, or you can get a job and make an honest living and be a part of society etc. Where is the incentive to work or do anything if you can just sit around and get paid to do nothing at all?

Are you drilling and profitting on their land? yes or no?

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All handouts in general.

Some people truly need it and don't get it while others abuse it.

My father is currently unemployed and has been constantly over the last 4 years. Tries and tries but ends up getting laid off. Even moved out of state to take a job and left the rest of my family behind (I'm grown now and don't live there but I have younger siblings). He didn't want to take unemployment.

On the other hand, my old HS buddy got out of the Navy and instantly went on unemployment because "he makes more from that than he could working." He feels he deserves it for being in the Navy.

Not comparing unemployment to other forms of handouts because it's not but they all get abused.

so all handouts except unemployment because that one's different even though it still gets abused?

i understand the gut reaction to people manipulating the system but the reality is that it helps far more people live and bring themselves up than it does those who manipulate it.

does it have problems? yes. does it need reform? yes. but it's so silly to see people in here, most of whom probably barely pay taxes dogpile on a group of people who already pretty much have the pootiest existences allowable in the 1st world. Because they are getting $300 a month from the government?

jesus, i got better things to worry about and as a society, we have MUCH bigger problems.

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Are you drilling and profitting on their land? yes or no?

their land? do you mean the land that government gave them because they felt sorry for them losing the battle for it?

I would imagine that there is drilling on their land, sure...but that is rewarded by the oil company just the same as if they were drilling in your back yard or mine.

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does it have problems? yes. does it need reform? yes. but it's so silly to see people in here, most of whom probably barely pay taxes dogpile on a group of people who already pretty much have the pootiest existences allowable in the 1st world. Because they are getting $300 a month from the government?

jesus, i got better things to worry about.

barely pay taxes sure ain't me!

who's fault is it that they have the pootiest existence? yours? mine? governments?

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does it have problems? yes. does it need reform? yes. but it's so silly to see people in here, most of whom probably barely pay taxes dogpile on a group of people who already pretty much have the pootiest existences allowable in the 1st world. Because they are getting $300 a month from the government?

jesus, i got better things to worry about.

I think that is what everyone is getting at. That it just needs a little reform because those who truly need it get overshadowed by those who abuse it.

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Just got my W2. Was shocked how much I paid :(

come on up to Canada and have a look at mine!!!! Sure, we have medicaire and all that good stuff...but guess who pays for it? Those of us with a job!! Canada and USA aren't so different when it comes to many of these issues.

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come on up to Canada and have a look at mine!!!! Sure, we have medicaire and all that good stuff...but guess who pays for it? Those of us with a job!! Canada and USA aren't so different when it comes to many of these issues.

I'm probably going to go to Canadia sometime in the winter. We decided against it for the honeymoon but still think it'd be a cool trip.

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I'm probably going to go to Canadia sometime in the winter. We decided against it for the honeymoon but still think it'd be a cool trip.

cool...if you are coming out west at all, let me know if I can be off assistance with the planning.

your fault hawk. yours and janglers.

jangler I could see...but me?

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