Sorry, but you aren't allowed to bitch & moan

[Panthro]

1st offense - probation w/ reductions if drug addiction classes taken

2nd offense - loss of food unemployment/food stamp/welfare benefits for 2 months

3rd offense - loss of all of 2nd offense items, plus housing

4th offense - jail

If you can't get your life straight after that...you deserve jail because you're a damned leech on society. Sent to a hot cot facility.

sounds very christian of you.

[Hawk]

yes you are but you probably borrowed the $10 for drugs so I will want to give you a drug test to make sure you won't go spend it on drugs. Because drugs are bad mmmkay.

but if it was his money to begin with...he should be able to do whatever he wants with it.

handouts...I agree with you...people should need to do something for those...be drug free, at least attempting to be a valuable member of society...something.

[TheRealDeal]

JOBS FOR EVERYONE!!11

lol. what's the unemployment rate?

Currently it's bad but welfare isn't a new issue. There has been plenty of times throughout history where unemployment was low but there was still people on welfare.

Take some of that money and create some jobs. There are solutions, just too many pussies in this world that feel people are entitled to poo they aren't.

Don't let your surroundings own you. Be a man and decide your own future. I come from one of the shittiest surroundings you can have as a child and made it through relatively okay.

[mmmbeans]

g5 are you suggesting arresting people for failing drug tests?

are you high?

[Jase]

yes you are but you probably borrowed the $10 for drugs so I will want to give you a drug test to make sure you won't go spend it on drugs. Because drugs are bad mmmkay.

drugs...no

until they make a urine test for using thai hookers, I think I'm good.

[Hawk]

good on ya...but people need more incentive to make it through relatively okay....keep giving them handouts does nothing to inspire people to do more!

[g5jamz]

Someone busted their 4th time for a drug offense shouldn't do a bit of jailtime? You could sentence based on OPI vs. THC, etc. But if you're so farked up that you cannot stop doing drugs for...again...let me repeat...

1st offense - probation w/ reductions if drug addiction classes taken

2nd offense - loss of food unemployment/food stamp/welfare benefits for 2 months

3rd offense - loss of all of 2nd offense items, plus housing

then you need to be removed from drugs.

Me being a christian is looking out for people that can't do for themselves. Someone using government subsidized help to foster a drug addition is NOT being a christian. It's theft from people that truly deserve help. You know...people in situations NOT using drugs and could use the aid. Remember...government's broke people.

[TheRealDeal]

good on ya...but people need more incentive to make it through relatively okay....keep giving them handouts does nothing to inspire people to do more!

This is news to me. When I don't have something I want I just wait until someone gives it to me.

[mmmbeans]

Currently it's bad but welfare isn't a new issue. There has been plenty of times throughout history where unemployment was low but there was still people on welfare.

Take some of that money and create some jobs. There are solutions, just too many pussies in this world that feel people are entitled to poo they aren't.

Don't let your surroundings own you. Be a man and decide your own future. I come from one of the pootiest surroundings you can have as a child and made it through relatively okay.

bootstraps, i get it. welfare isn't actually much of an issue. Medicare is an issue, but foodstamps/welfare are really a very very small drop in the bucket.

[Panthro]

but they are eating lobster!!!

[Hawk]

This is news to me. When I don't have something I want I just wait until someone gives it to me.

not sure how to take that...let me explain...

we have the same issue with Canadian natives that even many of their own people argue. They have all sorts of treaty rights and the government pays them a very large sum on a monthly basis because apparently the white man took away their land all those years ago. The unemployment rate on those reserves is through the roof...you can sit on your ass and do nothing and collect your monthly check, or you can get a job and make an honest living and be a part of society etc. Where is the incentive to work or do anything if you can just sit around and get paid to do nothing at all?

[g5jamz]

Hawk...that question does not compute for many here. Freeloader sympathy is chique.

[TheRealDeal]

bootstraps, i get it. welfare isn't actually much of an issue. Medicare is an issue, but foodstamps/welfare are really a very very small drop in the bucket.

All handouts in general.

Some people truly need it and don't get it while others abuse it.

My father is currently unemployed and has been constantly over the last 4 years. Tries and tries but ends up getting laid off. Even moved out of state to take a job and left the rest of my family behind (I'm grown now and don't live there but I have younger siblings). He didn't want to take unemployment.

On the other hand, my old HS buddy got out of the Navy and instantly went on unemployment because "he makes more from that than he could working." He feels he deserves it for being in the Navy.

Not comparing unemployment to other forms of handouts because it's not but they all get abused.

[TheRealDeal]

not sure how to take that...let me explain...

I was being sarcastic. If they can get all they need from someone else they won't change.