I don't understand OCs sometimes

[KJDaniel31]

Martz had a moronic play call last week in the 3rd Q, up 20 or so, of a wildcat pass where Forte threw a terrible INT. Now, on 3rd and 3, that end around was so predictable I would expect middle school LBs to see it coming.

He is pretty well respected as a play caller, but these 2 were just bad.

[DDOGG]

Martz should be taken out back to the wood shed for that call. And he wasted a time out to call it.

[bleys]

Martz is widely respected, but far from a disciplined playcaller... and for that reason, his rep has a lot of chinks in that armor..

[KJDaniel31]

Yea I've never been impressed with him when he wasn't calling plays for Kurt Warner. Seems like he's lived off that success for 7-8 years now. He may still be very good 90% of the time, but I've seen a ton of bonehead playcalls from him....these were just the 2 recent ones that really hurt his team. One caused a massive comeback when he should have been able to rest starters (up 21?) and one put his team in a 4th and 4 with the clock running for no reason.

Just bad....makes no sense

[Jackofalltrades]

Bleys took the words out of my mouth.

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

If you had joined the huddle one or two years ago, not understanding the OC would have come with the territory.

Thankfully, that problem has been replaced with not knowing the OC.

[KJDaniel31]

If you had joined the huddle one or two years ago, not understanding the OC would have come with the territory.

Thankfully, that problem has been replaced with not knowing the OC.

Now thats what I call progress.

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

Now thats what I call progress.

If the new guy doesn't call a draw play on 3rd and 23, it is.

[bleys]

a draw on 3rd and 23 isn't a bad playcall... lol

of course, other factors would need considered...

[KJDaniel31]

a draw on 3rd and 23 isn't a bad playcall... lol

of course, other factors would need considered...

With a rookie QB it just might be the smartest call. I wonder what the odds are of picking up a 3rd and 23.....5%?

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

a draw on 3rd and 23 isn't a bad playcall... lol

of course, other factors would need considered...

Its a bad call when you do it 80% of the f***ing time.

[KJDaniel31]

Its a bad call when you do it 80% of the f***ing time.

I'm not arguing that we did not have bad play calling..but on 3rd and a mile, do you really want to go for the 1st? Wouldn't you think that a rookie QB is going to throw an INT 3 times as much as he will find a receiver for the first down?

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

I'm not arguing that we did not have bad play calling..but on 3rd and a mile, do you really want to go for the 1st? Wouldn't you think that a rookie QB is going to throw an INT 3 times as much as he will find a receiver for the first down?

Oh no, this problem goes back way before we had a rookie QB. And last year, after a certain point, there wasn't much to lose.

[KJDaniel31]

I understand frustration if we never went for it with Delhomme...he was experienced and should be trusted to take care of the ball.....but with a rookie last year, you can really destroy his confidence if you put him in positions to fail. Consider these numbers:

Peyton Manning Career stats on 3rd down and 11+ yards to go:

Rating:68.2 Att/Com:172-323 Comp%:53.3 Yards:2349 Yds/Att:7.3 Td:8 Int: 13

As frustrating as it is....its prolly smarter to run the draw or the screen and punt. The bigger problem is likely WHY IN THE WORLD IS IT 3RD AND 23?!?!