A positive spin on Clausen

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

What concerned me the most was all the damn batted down passes. He must have at 20 passes knocked down at the LOS. That is unacceptable.

True. He needs better vision and needs to learn the right point of release. He improved greatly later in the season with his snaps. Not fumbling them that is. I believe through careful film study and good coaching that will get better. Look at Drew Breese. Same height, great QB. Clausen needs to study his film.

[CRA]

What concerned me the most was all the damn batted down passes. He must have at 20 passes knocked down at the LOS. That is unacceptable.

I don't think he is going to grow a few inches between now and next season. I also don't think you can speed up his throwing motion or change his delivery to that large of degree (much easier said than done).

[Happy Panther]

Good lord.

[Cyberjag]

He's gong to have to improve at the batted down passes. I think that's possible--it has nothing to do with his height and a lot to do with experience.

10% of Clausen's incompletions came from batted passes. That's pretty bad. 32% came from poor throws. That's actually not bad at all. There's a lot of room for improvement in his game, but when you look at the stats most areas look like they're more about decision making than ability. And decision making should improve a lot after a rookie year.

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=24023&team=29

[Cyberjag]

True. He needs better vision and needs to learn the right point of release. He improved greatly later in the season with his snaps. Not fumbling them that is. I believe through careful film study and good coaching that will get better. Look at Drew Breese. Same height, great QB. Clausen needs to study his film.

Drew Brees is two inches shorter than Clausen, and that's generous. He compensates by taking deeper drops. And he also took four years to really develop into a good QB.

[Ricky Spanish]

i'm sorry, but i am not convinced that clausen is a legitimate starter until he actually plays well, doesn't only throw to his RB, and stops getting all his passes batted down at the line of scrimmage.

wasn't a fan of clausen in college, still not now. call me a hater if you want, i just don't see him being any good in the NFL

[PanthaSan]

........and he's a Cali Boy!

[thunderraiden]

People seem to forget he drove down the field vs. the Saints at the SuperDome at it's loudest and had us in field goal range after completing a pass of 4th down only for d-will to screw us over.

[CRA]

People seem to forget he drove down the field vs. the Saints at the SuperDome at it's loudest and had us in field goal range after completing a pass of 4th down only for d-will to screw us over.

I seem to recall him imploding and not being able to react to basic clock management. How much time did Clausen burn off the clock after the run play?

buy yeah, it is DWill's fault for trying to make a play to get a win. How long would that fg of been??

[Sloth]

So we're comparing to Alex Smith, the consensus bust out of SF?

Anyone who is laying the QB play totally at the feet of everyone but Clausen, name three positives you saw to build on from last season. This isn't meant to be snarky, please name three. His physical attributes are meh.. he's short, his arm strength is pretty bad, not real athletic. His delivery is awful. His intangibles aren't as bad as draft pundits screamed.. but nothing points to great here, either. The fact that he tosses a bunch of passes out of bounds?

Also, this "we won't know until the end of next season" talk will just continue. After next season, it'll be "but he is still learning the new system, most QBs take AT LEAST 3 years before they hit their stride! He needs one more year to properly evaluate his potential!".

Meanwhile, things stay the same in Pantherland. Use the defense as a crutch to prop up and try to mask poor to average offensive play and hope the oline stays healthy so we can at least run.

[brandon_87]

When will you people learn he has problems that aren't just something you can fix in a off season? The kid just isn't ready or meant for this league, ask jamarcus russlle, alex smith or david carr.... People that "hate" on him can see through the bullshit that the clausen "jock riders" can not and think that because some lame MOCK DRAFT had him as a sure fire top 5 pick that he is and will develop into the next montana. Those people actually REFUSE to admit they are wrong. How long will It take? Next year? 2012? What would have happened if he had gotten Luck? Away goes clausen? Do you jump poo to the unlucky team that picks him up if any?

Un-real.

Top 5 pick? What a crock of poo, he was a wasted pick at 48, or even if we had used the armanti trade to jump up and take clausen because be sure he would have still been there

[CRA]

So we're comparing to Alex Smith, the consensus bust out of SF?

Anyone who is laying the QB play totally at the feet of everyone but Clausen, name three positives you saw to build on from last season. This isn't meant to be snarky, please name three. His physical attributes are meh.. he's short, his arm strength is pretty bad, not real athletic. His intangibles aren't as bad as draft pundits screamed.. but nothing points to great here, either. The fact that he tosses a bunch of passes out of bounds?

Also, this "we won't know until the end of next season" talk will just continue. After next season, it'll be "but he is still learning the new system, most QBs take AT LEAST 3 years before they hit their stride! He needs one more year to properly evaluate his potential!".

Meanwhile, things stay the same in Pantherland. Use the defense as a crutch to prop up and try to mask poor to average offensive play and hope the oline stays healthy so we can at least run.

people claim he "protects the ball". Really he doesn't though....he is just scared to make certain throws and he actually turns the ball over a good amount for a QB who opts not to make all the risky/real throws.

No way someone can name 3.

[GoApps70]

"Clausen, ranked No. 4 overall on NFL Draft guru Mel Kiper's big board, is a pro-ready quarterback thanks to his experience in Charlie Weis' offense. Clausen already knows most of Carolina's playbook word-for-word, so he's fully capable of stepping in right away and posting a 2008 Matt Ryan-esque season if Moore can't pick up where he left off. "

I have a feeling that in three or four years, when we look back at the 2010 NFL Draft, we'll think that the Rams should have selected Jimmy Clausen No. 1 overall. I better believe that; I spent two days and 2,000 words writing a USA Today article just about that. "

"Whether Clausen is better than Bradford is irrelevant here, however. Two things are relevant. First, the Panthers drafted a guy who should have been a top 10 pick at No. 48. And second, Carolina now has a franchise quarterback for the first time in 13 years. "

From the source quoted earlier from, Walter Football. Goes on to say that with Clausen that we now have a franchaise QB, etc.

So much for all the talk of Clausen being a rookie and not knowing anything. Just shows what the "experts" know about anything.

There is no reason to believe that Clausen will ever be more than a third string back up if that. What did he have one game....111 yards? 10 games 3TD's 9 interceptions. So every 3 and 1/3 games he throws a touchdown. Actually would be much worse than one touchdown every 3.5 games since he had significant time in several other games. How can we compete with anyone that way. It's not like he lacks just a little, he lacks just about everything. Some of you talk about our O-Line not doing so well, but you fail to say that part of that reason is because defenses know they can get to Clausen because they really, really, really do not have to worry about his passing. What's there to lose by rushing him, he normally cannot hit even an open receiver. What baffles me is why so many are on Clausen's bandwagon. Does he make enough as a QB to hire people to write good things about him?

[Chaos]

Thanx for making this thread.

Now, can someone put a positive 'spin' on Everette Brown. WHOA - see what I done did there?