Will Carolina bring in competetion at QB?

[Cavscout]

Young is a bad idea...I wouldn't mind seeing the Panthers get Gradkowski or Volek though

[LinvilleGorge]

Just my 2 cents on the QB front, why would Denver think that getting rid of Orton is a good idea? Same thing in Philly with Kolb and in Washington with McNabb...considering that the free-agent market for QB's ain't all that impressive, why would any team ditch a quality backup/ potential starter without a replacement plan? Those are the three I would think could walk right into the starting QB role here, but aren't easily available. I'm thinking Volek at this point....and I like that option considering the alternatives.

It's all about the money. Orton and McNabb are making a lot of it and eating up significant cap space. It's hard to justify paying a guy that type of money if he's not starting. I agree with you about Kolb for the opposite reason. He's a good value in terms of salary and cap space.

[LinvilleGorge]

Pike and our 3rd round pick to the Bengals for Palmer?

I wouldn't do it. I'd rather have that pick. Palmer has really started going downhill and has never been the most durable guy out there.

For this year, I think we make some calls to some teams with some guys that may be on the trade market, but I don't think we'll be looking to part with anything higher than a 4th or 5th. In other words, I don't think we'll see a trade for a QB. I think we'll try to land a mid-level veteran free agent QB for insurance and roll with Clausen, a vet, and Pike. I also don't see a QB drafted. There's none worth the #1 overall, we don't have a 2cd rounder, and anyone who could potentially add anything to our depth chart will almost certainly be gone by the top of the 3rd.

This year I think we have to bring in a mid-level vet to push Clausen and hope we can get by with it. If not, we'll be back in play next year and waiting with baited breath whether or not Luck will enter the draft.

[Seamonk]

I hate to say this but.. Rex Grossman.

I think we need someone who has played a full season with a quality team. I have a feeling Rivera might not like Grossman though.. The dude has won games and gone to a superbowl. Hell, he nearly beat us in 2005 playoffs and that was when we had a top 3 defense. If he's got what it takes to not eff it up and make throws.. Drew Stanton and Tyler Thigpen are also serviceable. I like Volek too.. his age is an issue though but maybe he might push to come here since there's a good chance he might start.

[rayzor]

You could see Matt Moore back and maybe a mid-level veteran like Billy Volek.

1) this would suck and i would lose most of what little hope i have in the organization if this was their lame excuse for competition

2)great way to get that #1 pick back again but a team stupid enough to go with these lame options would screw that pick up as well.

[nagai]

Pike and our 3rd round pick to the Bengals for Palmer?

I think the Bengals will be the one team that like Palmer more than the rest of the league. I doubt they'll give anyone a good deal.

[Matthias]

Matt Moore, Billy Volek, and Marc Bulger are this team's best options for next year. Unless you want to give a second rounder for Kolb (something we don't have, and would therefore be giving up more to get him), or you want to make an even more devastating trade for Orton. Bringing in either one of these guys better mean we make the playoffs at the least. If none of you are expecting playoffs, why not go ahead and not make the playoffs with a cheap QB? (McNabb is likely to be let go, so if he is, I suppose he would be the best option, yet if he doesn't come cheap then I'll pass.) So don't be mad if we brought in Volek or re-signed Moore for cheap, when we weren't going to make the playoffs anyway.

[Cavscout]

Pike and our 3rd round pick to the Bengals for Palmer?

Pike sucks...why would they want him?

[jarhead]

For those who who believe Clausen is the franchise QB of the future bringing in Volek or someone Volek like may make sense.I would imagine Hurney and friends would like to believe that being they picked him.

On the other hand there is a large camp that believes Clausen does not have the goods to take us to the playoffs which includes myself.For us we need someone that can come in....compete,and win games.For us I think it makes more sense to find someone younger that can beat Clausen out and gives us a chance to win some games.

This is an important decision and I hope Hurney and friends will suck it up and do the right thing.

[MHS831]

A lot of you say, "Pike Sucks." Amazing insight. However, you have to remember 3 things:

1. Panther QB coach Scherer was as bad as Davidson. He tried to institute timing routes with Jake Delhomme in 2009, lobbing balls to areas. He admitted that he had something to do with Jake's demise. Remember Moore lobbing balls in the red zone that were picked off in the end zone? Scherer's work. Pike struggled because he was doing the same thing. The difference? Moore and Delhomme has success before Scherer. He is tall. Let him step back and throw it.

2. Pike missed OTAs, and was behind more than most rookies are in training camp. I asked him about in on one of the last days of OTAs and one of his first, and he just looked at me like he wanted me to throw him a life raft. "My head is swimming. I am so lost." He was trying to switch from the spread to the pro set, missed OTAs, and was a rookie.

3. Pike was asked to play WAY before he was ready. Clausen was supposed to be NFL ready, but Pike was supposed to be a project. He still is. Maybe he will never be good, but even moreso than in Clausen's case, he deserves some time.

Having said that, I would consider the following:

Sign Volek, Hasselbeck, McNabb, or Collins to drive the bus for a year or two.

Move Jimmy to the #2 QB spot for 2011 with the idea in his head that he is the future when he masters the job.

Draft a QB to compete with Jimmy and Pike--loser to the PS.

[jarhead]

We don't need nor want a dual threat QB like young esp with his attitude problems. Young will go to an established playoff type team where he will be used in certain situations like Vick was till this year. He is not for a team rebuilding.

That said, we need a veteran to come in and get this thing going again while we figure out what we will do future wise with QB. I for one am willing to part with a pick if we can trade down and get some more of them, for Kolb.

I agree, I can think of many reasons why we should not bring him in but I also think our options are weak.My point is he will be cheap and we could put him on a short leash.He may have charater issues or he may be inmature...I dont know.But to use the Vick analogy under the right circumstances under a do or die contract he may grow up.If he screws up we cut him...simple as that.The guy does have talent and we do not.I am just looking at it from a risk reward but understand why I am on an island on this subject.

[MHS831]

For those who who believe Clausen is the franchise QB of the future bringing in Volek or someone Volek like may make sense.I would imagine Hurney and friends would like to believe that being they picked him.

On the other hand there is a large camp that believes Clausen does not have the goods to take us to the playoffs which includes myself.For us we need someone that can come in....compete,and win games.For us I think it makes more sense to find someone younger that can beat Clausen out and gives us a chance to win some games.

This is an important decision and I hope Hurney and friends will suck it up and do the right thing.

They have to have a plan in place in the event you are right. They have to stop the bleeding now, but they also have to start developing young QBs. I think we should have 4 QBs. Clausen, a veteran, Pike and a rookie. I would not be against bringing in 2 veterans, an younger one and an older guy, moving Clausen to #3 for a year or two. Keep a QB on the PS at all times, learing the system. You can't expect Clausen to be the messiah after this season, but you can't throw him out either. I think he was the product of many factors that doomed any chance of success, but that is not saying he is going to be the next Montana either. I saw glimses of good passes and excellent reads. I think with a good QB coach and OC, a QB-friendly system, etc. he will be much better. Will that be enough?

[jarhead]

They have to have a plan in place in the event you are right. They have to stop the bleeding now, but they also have to start developing young QBs. I think we should have 4 QBs. Clausen, a veteran, Pike and a rookie. I would not be against bringing in 2 veterans, an younger one and an older guy, moving Clausen to #3 for a year or two. Keep a QB on the PS at all times, learing the system. You can't expect Clausen to be the messiah after this season, but you can't throw him out either. I think he was the product of many factors that doomed any chance of success, but that is not saying he is going to be the next Montana either. I saw glimses of good passes and excellent reads. I think with a good QB coach and OC, a QB-friendly system, etc. he will be much better. Will that be enough?

I agree last year was not Clausens fault.I saw a couple of good passes but more importantly I saw if he is going to be good he has a long way to go especially after the emotional beat down he received last year.Having said that the NFL is a win now business and I do not see that we have a win now QB.Fox did a bad job of developing raw talent and I think Riveria sees the position as half coach half teacher which is a good thing.What ever they do I hope they give Riveria some input into personal decisions because I have no faith in Hurney.

[teeray]

Judging from what Rivera, Hurney, and Richardson have all said. If Clausen gets competition then it will be through the draft.