I have seen some compare Clausen to Aikman...

[chef17]

I didn't read it right.. my bad

people dogging Clausen for something they should have expected, esp with our coaching staff is getting old though..

Oh I agree. Clausen really shouldn't have been expected to perform well. I just think people comparing Clausen to Peyton or Aikman is also getting old. I mean honestly you can compare almost every rookie QB because most don't have early success. Picking out Peyton and Aikman really don't show anything that relates to Clausen

[koolkatluke]

I'm not against given Jimmy another chance with a better OC and QB coach. The only real problem (that can't be correted with better coaching) with Jimmy was his size and the size of his hands. He had a hard time getting the ball over Dlinemen and getting good throw off because he can't gripped the ball like a bigger QB.

[mountainpantherfan]

I think history has proved that being a good quarterback in this league has absolutely nothing to do with measureables. They help, thats for sure, but at the end of the day most measurables can be changed like a throwing motion or manipulated within your game plan and play calling like with heigth.

Look at the truely great quarterbacks throughout NFL history and you will see a bunch of guys who are driven in ways that most can not even begin to comprehend.

Line up the top five QBs in the NFL today and compare them. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Ben Rothslinberger and Phillip Rivers. Five of the most different characters you'll ever meet. And when comparing physical traits they are just as differing. The one thing they all have in common is their drive and determination. It's something that can't be taught. Players either have it or they don't.

Jimmy Clausen is an interesting player IMO. He has weaknesses for sure but he also has some of the same skills that many other QB have. The question will be does he have that drive that will make him a great NFL QB? Sorry but stats don't tell that story one way or another. And I think that more than anything else will be what Riveria and the other coaching staff will be looking for.

If I had to guess as a fan, I would say no. I just don't see it in him from the little bit that we get to see into. But I thought the same thing back in 2001 when this California kid that went to Mich. and seemed so full of himself took over for Bledsoe in New England. His cockiness that you only limitedly saw completely overshadowed his work ethic and drive. You never really know.

[KJDaniel31]

I think history has proved that being a good quarterback in this league has absolutely nothing to do with measureables. They help, thats for sure, but at the end of the day most measurables can be changed like a throwing motion or manipulated within your game plan and play calling like with heigth.

Look at the truely great quarterbacks throughout NFL history and you will see a bunch of guys who are driven in ways that most can not even begin to comprehend.

Line up the top five QBs in the NFL today and compare them. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Ben Rothslinberger and Phillip Rivers. Five of the most different characters you'll ever meet. And when comparing physical traits they are just as differing. The one thing they all have in common is their drive and determination. It's something that can't be taught. Players either have it or they don't.

Jimmy Clausen is an interesting player IMO. He has weaknesses for sure but he also has some of the same skills that many other QB have. The question will be does he have that drive that will make him a great NFL QB? Sorry but stats don't tell that story one way or another. And I think that more than anything else will be what Riveria and the other coaching staff will be looking for.

If I had to guess as a fan, I would say no. I just don't see it in him from the little bit that we get to see into. But I thought the same thing back in 2001 when this California kid that went to Mich. and seemed so full of himself took over for Bledsoe in New England. His cockiness that you only limitedly saw completely overshadowed his work ethic and drive. You never really know.

Many people forget that one Tom Brady was so impressive at Michigan that he lost his starting job as a senior to the sparest of spares Drew Henson.

[koolkatluke]

The fact that he didn't have a 300 yard passing day could be on him but FOX has 2 get some blame 2. He was so crazy about running the ball and scared 2 pass alot of the times Jimmy was playing.

[Jangler]

Jeff George was a cocky MFer too and a journeyman QB. He also had a helluva arm, but didn't get along with anybody.

If Clausen can't fix what ails him he won't even be a journeyman.

[Highlandfire]

this idea has fail written all over it.

we sit him on the bench for 2-3 years hoping to see if he gets any better while we stick around the bottom of the NFCS and then give clausen another chance to show he sucks for another couple years and then we have to start finding our franchise QB all over again.

wow what a bad idea.

fix the QB problem NOW. don't sit around and wait for this clown to show he can or can't be the guy after a couple years.

oh....and clausen threw how many TDs compared to aikman's TDs? sucky comparison. keep on reaching.

Fix the QB situation now? Ok Who? you guys talk this poo like we can go to walmart and just pick a guy off the shelf. There is NO QB in this entire draft that can come in and immediately fix the situation. Luck wouldn't have done that. What veteran is actually going to come here and be the answer? There are two QB's in the entire NFL that can do that and both aren't ever leaving their teams.

Some of you need to wake up its going to take awhile to get to where we need to be esp at QB.

[Punisher]

Lets bring Jarrett, Carter, Colbert, Shelton back since everything was Fox's fault.

[Pimpdaddy]

Aikman would have sucked if it wasnt for Jimmy Jimmy Johnson....

[DaveThePanther2008]

Highlandfire you can talk to you are blue in the face and Happy Panther isn't gonna listen. Since Clausen didn't blow the NFL up and become ROY the Clausen bandwagon emptied pretty damn fast. I am with you. Most, MOST rookie QB's don't do well. Yeah you get a couple, Brady and Bradford to name a few but for the most part Rookie QB are not going to do well.

Compound the fact that We had 2 rookie Receivers, an offensive line in disarray, an offensive coordinator that couldn't find his way out of a wet paper bag, a head coach who could careless whether Clausen succeeded or not. I would also like to point out that our original Starting QB who was 6-2 prior to the season started, STRUGGLED TOO. Coincidence? Sounds to me the scheme (theme) for the season was NOT GOOD. I would say Clausen deserves a Mulligan.

Happy Panther, Not sure whether you hated the Clausen pick from the get go or play too much Madden 2011, but to label anyone a bust after his rookie season is pretty lame. With obviously nothing positive to say about him it is clear that he would have to become the next Peyton Manning before you would acknowledge you were wrong. You might be right, he may be a bust but we won't know for sure until next season.

I will admit had Luck come out I would have liked to seen him come in an compete with Clausen but not because I thought Clausen sucked.

I would also like to think that if Clausen failed we didn't waste a pick on Pike. He would have had a year and a half to learn to be a drop back QB. He has good size and intangibles. But once again you don't become an NFL QB without experience.

We shall see.

[Highlandfire]

Highlandfire you can talk to you are blue in the face and Happy Panther isn't gonna listen. Since Clausen didn't blow the NFL up and become ROY the Clausen bandwagon emptied pretty damn fast. I am with you. Most, MOST rookie QB's don't do well. Yeah you get a couple, Brady and Bradford to name a few but for the most part Rookie QB are not going to do well.

Compound the fact that We had 2 rookie Receivers, an offensive line in disarray, an offensive coordinator that couldn't find his way out of a wet paper bag, a head coach who could careless whether Clausen succeeded or not. I would also like to point out that our original Starting QB who was 6-2 prior to the season started, STRUGGLED TOO. Coincidence? Sounds to me the scheme (theme) for the season was NOT GOOD. I would say Clausen deserves a Mulligan.

Happy Panther, Not sure whether you hated the Clausen pick from the get go or play too much Madden 2011, but to label anyone a bust after his rookie season is pretty lame. With obviously nothing positive to say about him it is clear that he would have to become the next Peyton Manning before you would acknowledge you were wrong. You might be right, he may be a bust but we won't know for sure until next season.

I will admit had Luck come out I would have liked to seen him come in an compete with Clausen but not because I thought Clausen sucked.

I would also like to think that if Clausen failed we didn't waste a pick on Pike. He would have had a year and a half to learn to be a drop back QB. He has good size and intangibles. But once again you don't become an NFL QB without experience.

We shall see.

You sir are correct!

[Sloth]

If only the coaching hadn't held him back, Clausen would've had a stronger arm, a better delivery, not taken half a season to handle snaps from Center, balls to actually stay in the pocket for more than .7 seconds and balls to throw to people within 20 feet of a defender.

You can b-b-b-but Aikman all you want, he's not the norm. He showed more than Clausen. Comparing Clausen to Manning is idiotic and not really worth refuting.

Aikman went #1 overall, our scrub was a mid second rounder. The level of investment between the two isn't comparable at all.

Also, please stop talking about Pike like he's an investment at all. He was a 6th round comp pick. The definition of "oh well, why not". Pike will have no bearing on any decisions we make at QB this off-season.

[Punisher]

If only the coaching hadn't held him back, Clausen would've had a stronger arm, a better delivery, not taken half a season to handle snaps from Center, balls to actually stay in the pocket for more than .7 seconds and balls to throw to people within 20 feet of a defender.

You can b-b-b-but Aikman all you want, he's not the norm. He showed more than Clausen. Comparing Clausen to Manning is idiotic and not really worth refuting.

Aikman went #1 overall, our scrub was a mid second rounder. The level of investment between the two isn't comparable at all.

Also, please stop talking about Pike like he's an investment at all. He was a 6th round comp pick. The definition of "oh well, why not". Pike will have no bearing on any decisions we make at QB this off-season.

Matt Moore didn't look THAT BAD with the same coaching staff. BSP even looked better. Everyone will talk about his two pick sixes, but he was extremely careful up until that point when he had to try and win the game. Something Clausen refused to do. Plus it was the Ravens. It would have been terrible to see Pickles out there against those guys.

[panthers55]

Even during his rookie year Aiikman looked worlds better than Clausen. So if Aikman sucked ass then Jimmy doesn't even qualify for that accolade. Aikman threw 9 TDS in 11 starts. Clausen threw 3 TDs in 10 starts. In fact I bet that is a record. I can't remember a quarterback ever throwing for fewer TDs in 10 starts. Not saying it didn't happen but seriously I beleive his rookie season was one of the worse as far as TD to INT ratio or offensive scoring in the history of the league.

So don't insult our intelligence and comparing Clausen to Aikman. Aikman was twice as good as Clausen at least.