John Fox press conference

[Happy Panther]

what better job was available other than Carolina?

Denver

[bleys]

Denver

you must be joking. we have a much better team overall than they do..

[Dpantherman]

yea, i knew id get BS back. i f**king quit.

[carpanfan96]

Fox said he has often been criticized for game plans heavily geared toward "3 yards and a cloud of dust." To the contrary, he said the Broncos offense will be dynamic.

"I don't want to sit here and say we won't be exciting or creative," Fox said, according to The Post.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6022333

I'll believe it when I see it, Foxy running an offense not completely Run heavy.... :eek:

[Pimpdaddy]

Everyones all butthurt around here.

Not butthurt, hell, i already know more about the direction Denver is going in than the Panthers were in the last 4 years....

[Nicbsbll2]

John Fox's staff failed to develop each of these quarterbacks:

Chris Wienke

Randy Fasani

Stefan LeFors

David Carr

Matt Moore

Josh McCown

Jimmy Clausen

Tony Pike

Plus Fox has also gone on record saying that he doesn't like drafting rookie quarterbacks because they take too long to develop. So if our quarterback situation was so bad, then Fox is ultimately at fault for that being the case.

[Happy Panther]

you must be joking. we have a much better team overall than they do..

sure we do

[Happy Panther]

Chris Wienke

Randy Fasani

Stefan LeFors

Matt Moore

Josh McCown

Jimmy Clausen

Tony Pike

Yeah all star cast.

Go post this on any other team's message board and watch your ass get laughed away.

Most people would have to google a few of those names

[carpanfan96]

you must be joking. we have a much better team overall than they do..

Idk, looking at everything the Bronco's are pretty solid.

They have a good Oline (even)

They have better QB's then Carolina (denver)

They have good wr's (about even with carolina if you count smith being smith)

Carolina has better RB's, but in the right system I think the RB's for Denver can be successfull. (carolina)

DLine - I'd say even (different sysems 3-4 vs 4-3, but I think they are even.)

LB's - Carolina all the way

Secondary - on potential and talent - about even maybe a slight advantage to Denver (since Carolina's probably lost Marshall)

Special Teams - Kasey is awesome on FG's, but carolina still needs a dedicated returner that can light it up. Coverage was better in Carolina this past season, but Denver has a better returner in Royal.... so I'd say even overall.

Not too far off from each other if you ask me.

[The_Cannon]

Yeah all star cast.

Go post this on any other team's message board and watch your ass get laughed away.

Most people would have to google a few of those names

Well while those guys turned out pretty trash we don't know what they COULD have been if they would have been properly developed.

[Nicbsbll2]

Yeah all star cast.

Go post this on any other team's message board and watch your ass get laughed away.

Most people would have to google a few of those names

Sure they turned out pretty bad, but that's not the point. The point is that we gave Fox and his staff plenty of quarterbacks to groom to take over for Delhomme. And since Fox didn't want any first round quarterbacks, we gave him the best of the rest.. which his staff still failed to coach into at least a serviceable quarterback... which falls right on John Fox's feet.

[Bronco Texan]

A big Thank You to the Carolina fans that are over at the Broncos forums trying to set those guys straight. I assure you not all Broncos fans are so closed minded. Most of us are just so depressed with the lack of good football we are use to. So these fans of ours are making things seem better than they are.

"Fox had no say in personnel"

"Fox didn't run his offense"

That is just some of the crap they spewing at the Broncos Forums. I wish more of you guys would go over there and set these guys straight. Don't get me wrong I will have a wait and see approach with Fox, but I'm not going to turn him into something he is not.

[Pox 08]

Let me ask you a question, since John Fox is off the hook for 2010, what is your excuse for him for the 2009 season?

^Pretty much this.

21 of the 22 starters being brought back from the 12-4 season. They can't put all the blame on Delhomme. If a qb is having a meltdown of epic proportions, it's up to the HC to intervene. Not just sit there with his thumb up his ass, spouting off about how Delhomme gives us the best chance to win. That wouldn't have been so bad, had Moore came in and finished the season poorly himself, but when Moore went 4-1, it just blew a hole in Fox's theory, even if Moore probably wasn't directly responsible for most of those wins.

[House]

here's a question for you... do you think the front office did everything they could to put our team/coach in the best position last year to win a Superbowl?

if you have a job to do and your company gives you the bare minimum to do it, then you get let go for failure to perform.. I seriously doubt you would go around singing that company's praises

Did the FO give Fox a team that he could win the SB with THIS year? No.

Did the FO give Fox a team that could only muster 2 wins at best? No.

Fox wanted a FAT contract extension, he was wanting something in the 6 million+ a year range. The FO wanted to get rid of some fat that was wieghing this team down in a year in which it would cost them "nothing" to do so.

They gave Fox a young team that has more talent than most are willing to admit. Pretty much said, "Hey, here is your team, coach them up and show us that you are worth a fat contract." Because honestly, what had Fox ever done to prove that he was elite?

If your employer gives you the bare minimum to do a job and you go out and do a better job than anybody thought you could, then you proved your worth and will probably get a fat raise for it. I am sure that if Fox would have gone 8-8 or 9-7 with this team then either the Panthers would have given him his fat contract or someone else would have.

As it is, since he did a shitty job at coaching up young talent and winning games, he had to settle on Denver at a noob price.