Kiper just made a good point on Mike & Mike

[carolinarolls]

Sam being better with his oline than Sam is with ours doesn't prove that he doesn't have a questionable O-Line.

who is trying to prove that? the debate was that his is better than ours. he is a better qb for sure but he also has some advantages. if you debate he would not have been better protected with his than with ours than that is another story and its a judgement call to each his own conclusion.

there are too many factors to consider here and when you muddle them together its impossible to make a concrete determination because all the situations are transitive.

however in regards to oline's this year, putting the same QB behind each oline is the only way to tell. even then there is the WR and RB tangent discussions for sure. I am not discounting that at all because they are important. My main point was that comparing their overall stats against each other and then determining that both olines are equally effective based on that and only that is not telling the full story.

its the same ol' stats vs. opinion debate. it takes a little of each to get the full picture

:cheers2:

[Punisher]

who is trying to prove that?

You

Sam is better with his oline than Sam is with ours: ding ding ding