Word of caution about drafting Fairley

[chknwing]

Some people have been saying he could play a one technique like Ratliff or a 5 technique like the pats do with wilfork sometimes but I'd rather him not have to keep his shoulders parallel and just get the f**k in there and ruin poo.

They can find some fat ass to stick on the line besides him to eat up blockers.

exactly

[PantherBrew]

He was actually double teamed when he laid the smack down on James in the backfield.

Cant find video.

[therealmjl]

Damien Lewis is teh best!!

[CatMan72]

There are two DT positions in the 4-3 scheme, the "up-tackle" and "nose-tackle" and each has it's own responsibility.

The nose-tackle's job is to be the run stuffer you're talking about while the up-tackle's job is to shoot his gap between the guard and center and get after the QB.

Fairley is projected as an up-tackle, not a nose tackle.

[Goat2SRT]

He was actually double teamed when he laid the smack down on James in the backfield.

Cant find video.

You can't really use Oregon's O-Linemen as the typical or norm especially when talking about double teams in the NFL. Oregon's O-Line and roster in general was greatly undersized when compared to most players on Auburn; Oregon was successful throughout the season using only zone run schemes and not power drive blocking which is why they failed on those short yardage situations in the title game (1st and goal on the 1, the Safety, etc.). Even when they tried to power it up the middle and use double teams, they still weren't able to really compete with Auburn's size and strength as that wasn't their strength. JMO.

[Snake]

Double teams and gap responsibility are not the same thing. Do you really think fairley went his entire college career without fighting through a double team?

Crazy as it sounds he did not see many double teams. Most teams he faced ran the spread and that allowed him to have one guy or even come clean on some plays. He also gets swallowed up by run plays. Thats one of my main concerns about him.

Some people have been saying he could play a one technique like Ratliff or a 5 technique like the pats do with wilfork sometimes but I'd rather him not have to keep his shoulders parallel and just get the f*ck in there and ruin sh*t.

They can find some fat ass to stick on the line besides him to eat up blockers.

I really doubt he could do what wilfork dose because of his size. He would be best used in the 3 position with one gap responsibility.

[Snake]

There are two DT positions in the 4-3 scheme, the "up-tackle" and "nose-tackle" and each has it's own responsibility.

The nose-tackle's job is to be the run stuffer you're talking about while the up-tackle's job is to shoot his gap between the guard and center and get after the QB.

Fairley is projected as an up-tackle, not a nose tackle.

I just dont see paying that much for a one gap guy. If its not a freak like Suh or Ngata I just dont see a DT at 1.

[ECUPantherFan]

I'm expecting Fairley to be a good pro. But to be honest, after Andrew Luck, there isn't a prospect that makes me extremely excited. AJ Green is amazing, but is #1 too high for a WR? Fairley is dominant, but will he pan out in the NFL? Gabbert is solid, but not a #1 pick... I don't know what we're going to do, but I can say that after watching Rivera's press conference, I know he'll give GOOD input into which player to take. It'll work out...

[Catalyst]

I'm confident whoever we take will be a VERY good player for us. Hurney's been lights-out in the 1st round from day one.

[CatMan72]

I just dont see paying that much for a one gap guy. If its not a freak like Suh or Ngata I just dont see a DT at 1.

I don't think he's exclusively a one-gap guy, but in a division with Brees and Ryan a good one-gap guy can be worth his weight in gold.

My bottom line is this: right now Scouts Inc grades Bowers, Fairley, Petersen and Green all at 97, so if you trust Scouts Inc that all these guys are equally talented prospects at their respective positions, then I think it comes down to our biggest position of need right now, which is DT.

[PantherBrew]

I am sure the best defensive tackle in the SEC/nation was double teamed regularly.

[CatMan72]

I am sure the best defensive tackle in the SEC/nation was double teamed regularly.

Yup, infact I'm sure teams schemed to double-team him and try to take him out of games... didn't work.

[SOJA]

Unless Fairley looks like a sure fire pick, I still say we trade down

[nosuchthingasapanther]

it looks like i'm not the only one who sees fairley for what he is.

my post from another thread...

...i thought i was the only one who noticed him being easily handled by a single lineman.

his ability to make plays relies on his ability to beat his man at the snap. as big as he is, he should be more physical. he rarely collapses the pocket. he's either in the backfield because he was faster than his man, or he get's stood up at the line. the latter happened more than the first.

what worries me the most...he has no idea where the ball is most of the time. he zeroes in on the qb, and that's it. there were run plays that went right at him...and by him. all he had to do was reach out or move his man to disrupt the play...but he either couldn't because he was being manhandled or he simply didn't see where the ball was in play.