$anders Drama just got More Interesting for Panthers

[mrcompletely11]

18 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You posted an opinion to in your own words "start a thread" of discussion on a public forum, so yeah kinda.

I'm not criticizing your personally. I'm just saying that when you type in an obviously intentional inflammatory way you're pretty much derailing your own thread right from the jump. Why?

He wrote a thesis and then started a new thread about something we have been discussing since Wed.  Why not simply add to the existing thread but I kindof have an idea of why he started a new one.........

[MHS831]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Im trying to prove that you're a poor and pugnacious communicator but you're doing a more effective job of that than me so thanks. LOL

And now we get to the trolling confession:  if that is what you are trying to prove, how is that not a personal criticism? You insisted it was not.   Was your communication accurate?  Just stop it--

[mrcompletely11]

15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Im trying to prove that you're a poor and pugnacious communicator but you're doing a more effective job of that than me so thanks. LOL

hold up now, he was a reporter for 6 different newspapers show some respect

[MHS831]

12 minutes ago, Lurk21 said:

Another thing, if somebody trades ahead of us to get Sanders,  there is a possibility  of a panic run. Dart or Milroe chatter could make someone show their hand since it'd put a spotlight on the Saints taking the next qb available. 

That is a good point.  Dart, on some boards according to a few experts on NFL network is the #2.  I do not see it--I do not see Milroe as the #4.  Frankly, and I think most people are doing it,  if I had a qb need in 2025 I would patch the position as best I could with a vet and draft OL, TE, or WR.

[LinvilleGorge]

23 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

And now we get to the trolling confession:  if that is what you are trying to prove, how is that not a personal criticism? You insisted it was not.   Was your communication accurate?  Just stop it--

The guy starting a thread on the premise of a trolling nickname now accusing others of trolling. Amazing.

My point was you could've taken your inflammatory crap out and had a good productive thread but per usual you just want to bait a fight and then play victim when you get what you wanted.

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The guy starting a thread on the premise of a trolling nickname now accusing others of trolling. Amazing.

My point was you could've taken your inflammatory crap out and had a good productive thread but per usual you just want to bait a fight and then play victim when you get what you wanted.

 

[45catfan]

Ten prospects that could be available at #21 (based on one site's Big Board).  I chose #21-#31 instead of trying to guess who might fall to that slot.

I see several EDGE guys, a couple of LBs, Barron-CB, Grant-NT Egbuka-WR and Loveland-TE.  I'm cool with this move down if it materializes.  We could use the services of any of these guys.

Edited Sunday at 06:08 PM by 45catfan

[jb2288]

15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The guy starting a thread on the premise of a trolling nickname now accusing others of trolling. Amazing.

My point was you could've taken your inflammatory crap out and had a good productive thread but per usual you just want to bait a fight and then play victim when you get what you wanted.

To be fair to OP the thread is fine. A few guys came in and started pooing on it, then for some reason you decided to pile on

[jb2288]

4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Ten prospects that could be available at #21 (based on one site's Big Board).  I chose #21-#31 instead of trying to guess who might fall to that slot.

I see several EDGE guys, a couple of LBs, Barron-CB, Grant-NT Egbuka-WR and Loveland-TE.  I'm cool with this move down if it materializes.  We could use the services of any of these guys.

If we trade down to 21, get another first next year + a 2nd or 3rd this year, and still get Walker then Dan is getting a statue. I really like Egbuka too, think he can be a steal in the bottom of the first. 

[MHS831]

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Ten prospects that could be available at #21 (based on one site's Big Board).  I chose #21-#31 instead of trying to guess who might fall to that slot.

I see several EDGE guys, a couple of LBs, Barron-CB, Grant-NT Egbuka-WR and Loveland-TE.  I'm cool with this move down if it materializes.  We could use the services of any of these guys.

I think it is kind of a sweet spot for us--unless one of the big 3 drop to us.  I would love Walker at 21, Mike Green (minus the character concerns) would be ideal. I don't even know why people do not like Pearce--but they seem to have red flagged him.

[jb2288]

37 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

That is a good point.  Dart, on some boards according to a few experts on NFL network is the #2.  I do not see it--I do not see Milroe as the #4.  Frankly, and I think most people are doing it,  if I had a qb need in 2025 I would patch the position as best I could with a vet and draft OL, TE, or WR.

The problem with waiting, is as of now there really isn't a QB that's worth a first next year besides Arch. And he hasn't even started a season, who knows what happens. If the #1 next year is a QB needy team, they're taking Arch and you don't have an option to trade up. Obviously someone will show up and shoot up boards and maybe you do get 3 1st round grade guys, but as of now 2026 prospects have guys like Nico, Allar, Sellers, or Nussmeier as the 2nd behind Arch. Yuck

[45catfan]

6 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

If we trade down to 21, get another first next year + a 2nd or 3rd this year, and still get Walker then Dan is getting a statue. I really like Egbuka too, think he can be a steal in the bottom of the first. 

The value chart I looked at has has the value difference at 600 points between our first round selections.  That value unto itself is pick #31 in the first round.  The Steelers do not have a 2nd rounder this year and would have to give us their 3rd rounder valued at 175 points, which means we would get their 2nd rounder next year.  So the Steelers would only have a 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th this year if that trade occurred.  That's a LOT to give up on Sanders who they seem to be simply lukewarm on.

[MHS831]

19 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

To be fair to OP the thread is fine. A few guys came in and started pooing on it, then for some reason you decided to pile on

That "trolling nickname" is the one Sanders created for himself.  Using a $ to represent a public figure in a discussion board is not trolling.  What our moderator did here was a clear example of trolling.  I am just going to block/ignore him because this is a recurrence.  He had one job!

Edited Sunday at 06:31 PM by MHS831

[jb2288]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

The value chart I looked at has has the value difference at 600 points between our first round selections.  That value unto itself is pick #31 in the first round.  The Steelers do not have a 2nd rounder this year and would have to give us their 3rd rounder valued at 175 points, which means we would get their 2nd rounder next year.  So the Steelers would only have a 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th this year if that trade occurred.  That's a LOT to give up on Sanders who they seem to be simply lukewarm on.

I wouldn’t do it for fair value. Goes out the window when talking about your QB. I would need their 3rd this year and first next. Happy to stay at 8 if they don’t want to