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Justify why Cam Newton isn't worth #1 overall?

blackcatgrowl

By blackcatgrowl,
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rayzor Grand Master

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I don't know why people compared him to them. I think you could just as well compare him to any other big bust QB with character issues coming out of college of the last decade or so... and there have been plenty of pasty white dudes too.

I don't want to get my hopes up for someone who has no shot getting here is all... and I kinda feel like he doesn't.

We'll see - anything is possible.

they have been doing it because they are lazy and don't want to think beyond color lines. same thing for black people who have their eyes fixed on him only because he's black.

he's the best and most talented player in college right now and there is no reason why that talent and success can't translate to the pros.

and character issues...i'd be much more concerned about mallett than newton. the stuff that people are knocking newton for is pretty lame.

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I don't really understand this logic.

Well, so far Cam Newton has been caught cheating at Florida, stealing laptops, and been caught up in a pay-to-play scandal. Now, while none of those things are criminal (well, technically that's not true. Stealing is a crime, but before the trial he took a "pre-trial class" to clear his name, so the trial was thrown out), they are seriously frowned upon, by not just the fans, but the alumni who are paying the way through the college. Cam Newton has already shown that he doesn't want to follow a few simple rules. They're not even hard rules to follow

No, it has nothing to do with the fact that he's black (I've been an advocate of Patrick Peterson's for two years), it has everything with to do with the fact that the guy can't follow basic instruction now.

First off, i agree with this. it's not hard to follow the rules in college, yet, he couldnt, caught stealing a laptop is just a dumb thing to do. and how will he act when he has 80 million dollars??? As for the fact that it has nothing to do with him being black, i wish people wouldnt play the race card whenever you are criticizing a player, i am a fan of Vince Young and would like him in Washington. i just am critcizing Newton for his issues and he's had them, he's got work to do, i wouldnt start him in 2011.

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they have been doing it because they are lazy and don't want to think beyond color lines. same thing for black people who have their eyes fixed on him only because he's black.

he's the best and most talented player in college right now and there is no reason why that talent and success can't translate to the pros.

and character issues...i'd be much more concerned about mallett than newton. the stuff that people are knocking newton for is pretty lame.

this isn't a thread about mallett.

a lot of his success won't translate to the NFL. Honestly, his rushing will be greatly decreased. however, I think he has the arm to make up for that.

I really want to see him beat Oregon with his arm, not his legs. IMO, he has shown that ability already, but to see him do it on that big a stage would increase his chances of landing here.

I think Newton is probably the only player other than Luck that will really excite fans here, or at least draw a lot of discussion :P

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didnt sam bradford play in a spread offense in the nfl as well?

tom brady plays in one now.

i'm not saying that newton should keep playing in a spread, but he should play in a pistol offense. he would be amazing in it and our run game would still be incredible.

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didnt sam bradford play in a spread offense in the nfl as well?

Sam Bradford's spread offense though didnt have him doing designed runs. Cam Newton's spread offense was more like The Golden Calf of Bristol's spread offense. Newton ran the ball ALOT, i seen some games where he ran 12 or more times, in the pros, he wont be able to do that.

a lot of his success won't translate to the NFL. Honestly, his rushing will be greatly decreased. however, I think he has the arm to make up for that. I really want to see him beat Oregon with his arm, not his legs. IMO, he has shown that ability already.

agreed he has shown the ability, but can he not run the ball 10 or more times, if (in the National title game) i see him run more than 10 times, that will turn me off on him still because i just cant see that working in the NFL, i said the same thing about The Golden Calf of Bristol and in time, The Golden Calf of Bristol will not run like he is doing and will have to pass from the pocket and The Golden Calf of Bristol is working hard at doing that. Newton will have to do the same, look to pass first and if all your recievers are covered and you have to run, then run, but dont look at Smith, see him covered then take off like i think he might do if he starts here on day one.

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You really think JR would put the future of his franchise in the hands of a thief. I don't think so-

he bought a laptop that he didn't know was stolen. that doesn't make him a thief. that makes him a kid that made a dumb mistake.

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